Talk:The Amboy Dukes

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[edit] A start

Something to start with. I got most of the data for this entry from classic bands. --Michaeltaft 22:45, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)

[edit] This violates NPOV

This violates the NPOV. It is clearly from Nugent's POV. The other members of the band, such as singer Steve Farmer, viewed the band differently.

Please provide more information as to what particularly is NPOV, and what can be done to fix it. Without that no work can be done. As it stands right now, it seems the article simply has a focus on Nugent because he is the bands leadman and the most famous member of the band. Also, the author does not clearly bias the article towards Nugent's point of view, he simply states what Nugent though. And also, please sign your comments. Lordthees 18:42, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

Guitarist Farmer and singer John Drake were the main songwriters and the de facto leaders of the Amboy Dukes. Nugent was not the "leadman". In an interview with Farmer which is not available online, Farmer deprecated Nugent's creative role in the Amboy Dukes, and mentioned some rather embarrassing personal details about Nugent. From Farmer's POV, Nugent was the one who needed babysitting - he came across as a spoiled brat and none too intelligent. Farmer did emphasize that Nugent was the only member not involved in drug activity and promiscuous sex with groupies, so Nugent was not hiding anything when he denied those things.

The main POV problem is the article presenting Nugent as leader, mainly because of his going on to a successful solo career, while Farmer and Drake did not. Prairie Dog

I've attempted to resolve all this, by presenting both accounts of Dukes history, and expanding a bit further upon their music. Accordingly I've taken off the NPOV tag. Wasted Time R 02:34, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Along with the aforementioned members, the original bassist was called "mom" (I forget his name at the moment) because he was large and looked like a biker trying to be a band member. I used to roady for several groups and sell them their equiptment in Detroit before they hit the charts. Some part time, or as needed, others weekends as the Detroit area was building a large following from groups like the MC-5, Amboy Dukes, SRC (Scott Richard Case), The Stooges (Iggy Pop), Alice Cooper Group, Tim-Tam and the Turn Ons, Frigid Pink, Bob Segar Group, The Rationals and on and on. A lot of them played the Grande Ballroom as either headliners or opening acts for larger international groups. As far as the break up of the Amboy Dukes, everyone in the area recognized Nugent as the leader De Facto, mainly due to his stage presence, which over shadowed the other members, and his lead guitar ability. Sad to say, most of the groups broke up as their success escalated. This was partly due to unscrupulous managers or agents, who recognized the most visible member of a group and would convince them to leave the group and go solo. This would eliminate the other members from shared royalty rights and even distribution among the members. That explains the trash talk by many members of groups who have had their star member leave to go solo. So, Amboy Dukes, Ted Nugent and the Amboy Dukes, Ted Nugent! Hope this helps!Organizedconfusion 18:40, 12 April 2006 (UTC)Organizedconfusion

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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:57, 12 February 2008 (UTC)