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What the heck does this sentence mean? "The live music from Gambler was only distributed at the performance (in Germany)." Ortolan88 17:47 Feb 16, 2003 (UTC)

The "live music" is the musical performance. Although I'm not absolutely sure, this should rather read "Gaudi", and not "Gambler". Actually, I don't know where the performannce of "Gambler" took place. The performance of Gaudi took place in Cologne, Germany, and the company went out of business at one point. From then on, the records were not sold anymore. Eric Woolfson plans to re-release them (further info on www.poe-cd.com, Eric Woolfson's current site ). Alrik Fassbauer 14:57, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Gambler (based on "The Turn Of A Friendly Card") and Gaudi were two musicals written by Woolfson, both of which were staged and regularly performed in Germany - Gambler in Mönchengladbach, Gaudi in Alsdorf near Aachen, then in Cologne. The respective cast albums were on sale at the theatres. (Dorthonion, 19:48 Jul 20, 2005)

Anyone know why the group is called "Alan Parsons Project" and not "Alan Parsons' Project"? Priapus 22:32, 1 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Well, it's actually called "The Alan Parsons Project" c.f. the album cover for Tales of Mystery etc.
The page has now been moved to reflect this Mallocks 19:14, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
I have updated the album pages to reflect this
Why the "project" had this name is easy to explain : Because his name is simply Alan Parsons, and not Alan Parson. Alrik Fassbauer 14:57, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
So it should be called 'Alan Parsons's Project' then
Grammatically yes, but the name as it is here is correct. Mallocks 09:11, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
No, it shouldn't. It's not possessive. The Alan Parsons part is saying that the band is named after him, not that it belongs to him. --Justdig 12:49, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
For those who are still confused by this, imagine if you had a musician named John Smith. He might call his band The John Smith Project. He would not call it The John Smith's Project; that's clearly nonsensical. Similarly, Alan Parsons called his group The Alan Parsons Project, not The Alan Parsons's Project, The Alan Parsons' Project, or anything else with a possessive apostrophe.
Hope this helps!172.169.101.185 (talk) 20:16, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


I edited the page so that it has a nice, friendly paragraph introducing the group. I think it better adheres to the layout guide. Bmunden 06:41, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Contents

[edit] quiet/sad/powerful

I wrote the 'quiet/sad/powerful' bit many years ago, for the first edition of this page... It doesn't sound correct or 'encyclopedic', and I'm a bit ashamed (&proud!) that it's still there... Could anyone please find a better way to describe the last song of most albums?

[edit] Gaudi

Delete "Gaudi" from the albums because it is not a "The Alan Parsons Project" work but a solo project by Eric Woolfson, thus it should be on his bio page, not here.

The album Gaudi certainly was credited to The Alan Parsons Project. Check out the cover. --Kev 14:36, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Add something about style and influences?

Maybe some mention that the music (in the beginning at least) incorperated a lot of cues from contemporary music (to some extent to be expected off course)? It seems to me that a lot of the early stuff takes musical cues from bands like Steely Dan (listen carefully - especially the more rythmical keyboard sections and some guitar phrasing) as well as 10CC (especially in some percussion effects). Also note that the incorperation of members of a band like Pilot had quite an effect on the sound and stylings. Even though the productional direction and musical architecture was steered by Parsons/Woolfson, and through this for some the perception of TAPP to be an artificial construct, the Project actually worked very much as a band with all the musicians involved making an imprint on the overall sound and style. --stasis101 06:51, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Contributors

Hi all,

I'm Andrew from the UK and am a member of an international Alan Parsons fan group contactable at app@roadkill.com

I had a look at the APP and AP pages last week and have started to do a few updates, digital remasters, corrections ie. Sicilian Defence 1979 not 1983 and added the Photo. We also have direct contact with Lisa and Alan (it's not me so I'm not showing off) to get things checked out, (currently checking the Grammy nominations) so if you see things added it will be me.

Hope to chat with some of you over the project.

Kind regards, Andrew Adw uk 21:11, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Large Section Missing

At the end of the recent update to the Band History section everything below it was not being shown due to some incomplete code:

As soon as I deleted it the rest came back.

Adw uk 20:43, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sources and Tone

There don't seem to be any sources cited for anything. Also, is it just me or does most of the article sound like it was written by someone working for Parsons's record company? The constant references to "Alan" and "Eric" seem odd, too. 69.229.20.210 21:52, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I know I should be bold...

...but I'm not too good with wikis, not quite sure how to upload pictures and such, but I think this page could use a picture...

There's a good one at the offical site... http://www.the-alan-parsons-project.com/biography.html

[edit] Album List Update

When this article was being written, why did the discography stop after Gaudi? What caught my eye was when I was looking for information about "On Air" (1996), which was my favorite concept album (as a whole). New albums have been released through 2006, before the remasters started.

[edit] Image

Image:Alanparsons1.jpg is used on both Alan Parsons and The Alan Parsons Project. We should remove the image from one page, preferably this page. -Yancyfry 02:05, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Woolfson and Parsons.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:58, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Advertising tone

Don't you think that "All ten Alan Parsons Project albums have been digitally remastered and are being released throughout 2007 in expanded editions with additional artwork and bonus tracks. [3]" sounds a little bit... advertising? Having it in bold text etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.194.10.10 (talk) 11:44, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Members

The Members section (and the sidebox at the top) mentions only Parsons, Woolfson and Powell as members, and gives an explanation for that. But the "The Alan Parsons Project" box at the bottom lists Bairnson and Cottle as well. I feel that this is inconsistent. Moreover, if Bairnson and Cottle are mentioned, then Stuart Elliott (the drummer) should be mentioned as well, because he appears on every The Alan Parsons Project and Alan Parsons (solo) album up until The Time Machine (with the possible exception of Tales). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.245.197.109 (talk) 08:53, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Citations & References

See Wikipedia:Footnotes for an explanation of how to generate footnotes using the <ref(erences/)> tags Nhl4hamilton (talk) 08:39, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Elmer Gantry?

A few of the Wikipedia entries for various albums by the Alan Parsons Project credit lead vocals on certain tracks to Elmer Gantry. As Elmer Gantry is not a singer, but a fictional character in a novel (and a film), I'm not sure how to take this -- vandalism? A joke? Or is this how an actual singer was credited on the original albums? Please enlighten me...

(The albums in question, by the way are The Turn of a Friendly Card and Eye in the Sky (album).)

172.169.101.185 (talk) 20:16, 6 June 2008 (UTC)