Talk:Textured vegetable protein

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[edit] Gluten

Why the See Also to gluten? Gluten is a byproduct of wheat flour prouction which is used to make a meat substitute called seitan. Textured vegetable protein is intentionally made out of extracted proteins from varied vegetables, mostly brown rice and soybeans. Although they are both meat substitutes, they have no connection. Mabye See Also's for vegan/vegetarian, mock-meat, or meat substitute? DryGrain 08:34, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

As a vegeterian, I find the fact that they are both meat substitutes to be more than enough of a reason to put in See Also. Many of the visitors to this article will be interested in meat substiutes.

~~I agree that there needs to be a stated reason for the "See Also." I came to the TVP article from the Gluten article while researching a gluten-free diet, so I inferred there may be gluten in TVP. The article of course cleared that up, but the confusing re-direction remains.

How about one to Soylent Green too? ;) (sorry, just kidding, everybody needs a laugh now and then...)Hatchetfish 03:11, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

"Although they are both meat substitutes, they have no connection." Obviously, they are related -- you just pointed out how! "See also" is for things with an interesting relationship/context. They don't have to be the same. They could be "compare and contrast" opposites! Please keep the Gluten link. 69.87.193.21 18:14, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] TVP hard on digestive system?

i've always heard that TVP is hard to digest and causes lots of gas - among other problems. can anyone verify this and/or add some relevant info to the article?

In general, major diet changes may take some time to adjust to. 69.87.193.21 18:14, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] TVP easy to digest!

I eat a LOT of TVP; I do not have more than the normal amount of gas, and I did not go through an adjustment period either, despite rather abruptly starting to eat a lot of it. I know that the process of making TVP removes essentially ALL of the indigestible sugars that are what make soy beans so bad, so I would not expect there to be a problem. I certainly have not had any problem whatsoever.

[edit] TVP in Prison food

I put in a couple of short sentences regarding TVP use in prison meals. I have no citation, except that I work in a prison, and it's a well-known fact, or rather, it's standard operating proceedure. The points I mentioned (low cost, low fat, high protien, long unrefridgerated shelf life, bulk avainability) come straight from the food service manager at my facility. I'm trying to find WRITTEN verification, with little luck. 146.63.253.183 19:23, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TVP and msg

TVP contains msg (monosodium glutamate) a know cancer causer and destroyer of brain neurons. It crosses the blood brain barrier to cause head aches in sensitive individuals and hyper stimulates brain nerves to damage them. Many vegetarians avoid all textured type proteins. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.122.82.156 (talk) 17:28, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Actually there is little evidence monosodium glutamate is harmful, and glutamate occurs naturally in many foods, including more or less all types soya beans and soya bean derived foods Nil Einne (talk) 08:21, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] TVP article reads like FUD

This article sure does smell like it was made by the soybean association. No mention of any downsides - the link to the American Soybean Association at the bottom...I smell a rat here. What about that ridiculous unsigned comment above 'TVP easy to digest!' No one writes like that...except maybe a trade association, anyone? Got the right pockets fleeced in DC? THIS ARTICLE NEEDS TO BE TAGGED AND FIXED IMMEDIATELY. 76.114.133.83 (talk) 12:58, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Keep an Eye out for these IP addresses

According to Wikiscanner, the American Soybean Association's IP address range is: 66.201.71.160-191

Also in Wikiscanner, this article was created by 12.160.113.112 in Bentonville, AR. Bentonville, home to WalMart, is also home to many suppliers who try to influence the retail giant. It would not at all surprise me if someone associated with the soybean industry, located there, created this article with that intent. 76.114.133.83 (talk) 13:10, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Trademarks

The article currently states in the paragraph discussing patents & trademarks:

All of these patents have expired or have been held inapplicable to current use.

While the patents may have expired, in my understanding, the trademarks TVP & TSP are still valid. [1] [2] Unless someone can cite evidence to the contrary, I believe this should be mentioned in the article. As it is now, the text may lead one to believe that the trademarks are no longer valid. Dforest (talk) 23:25, 10 March 2008 (UTC)