Talk:Teddy Atlas

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"Tyson had molested his little sister" is this his opinion or is this documented fact (e.g. legal procedings, an admission by Tyson, etc.)? Can you provide a reference for your writeup in general? Thanks. Wolfman 17:04, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Reference is Fox Sports Net Behind the Glory profile of Mike Tyson

I have heard about the incident several times before..now whether Tyson actally molested his little sister or not, thats another thing. Antonio Little Girls are Not to be played with!! Martin

I took out the reference to that incident for now, as finding hard evidence that it happened is difficult, and I wanted to remove the NPOV tag. Grackle 18:21, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

In the Beyond the Glory Documentary on Tyson, Atlas says that a member of his wife's family who was under age was with Tyson and Tyson made sexual advances towards her, he didn't molest her per se. Tyson said that he "touched her butt." 4/25/06

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[edit] Charitable Works

I think it's iportant to note that Teddy also created the Teddy Atlas Foundation, in memeory of his late father, Dr. Teddy Atlas.

[edit] Had one fight?

"Atlas had one amateur fight as a youth but quit due to his scoliosis"

What the hell is this guy talking about? Atlas was a Golden Gloves winner.

You don't end up looking like this after one amateur fight:

http://www.dratlasfoundation.com/images/teddybiopic.jpg

Fixed.


Atlas was not a New York City Golden Gloves Champ, he never even entered New York City Gloves. He had one fight only. His recent friends claim he won a Golden Gloves trophey in Upstate New York, but he never says so himself. Kevin Rooney, who worked with D'Amato much more than Atlas, was New York City Gloves champ.

He won the Adirondack Golden Gloves title according to this [1]. user:71.255.56.243 obviously has a grudge against Atlas and keeps editing the article to show him in a worse light.

Atlas never had the amateur carreer he claims. If you choose to believe his friend, Jack Newfiield, who had Atlas himself as a source!! Well, go ahead. All the legend of Atlas --from ESPN documentary, to anything else using him as source, is ridiculous. He also never won Golden Gloves. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.200.247 (talk) 03:51, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

So apart from what you say its all lies!! They're all lying about Atlas to put him in a better light. Do you think the lizard people may be involved in this sinister cover up ? lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.158.177.3 (talk) 21:01, 16 January 2008 (UTC)


Any boxing person knows Atlas was never any sort of amateur star, as does Atlas himself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.222.5 (talk) 02:22, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Protection

Something needs to be done about this page. A user with several 71.XXX.XXX.XXX IP addresses keeps adding false information about Teddy Atlas to show him in a worse light. I shall request protection and action to be take against this user.

Atlas has given several versions of stories about himself over the years, including one regarding pulling gun on Tyson, and firing off round against the teenager's head. The girl in alleged incident was in school with Tyson, not several years younger.

Atlas always said he put gun to Tyson's head over disipline problems, like not listening to him in gym, and fights with other teens in D'Amato's care. Atlas changed story to incident with girl after he became more high profile.

Article by Jack Newfield is biased, Newfield was very close friend of Atlas when article was written. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.246.106.226 (talk) 05:13, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

The story about the gun incident and the girl was mentioned in beyond the glory which featured Tyson and Atlas. Your biased too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.158.232.211 (talk) 14:27, 27 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.211.218 (talk)

Atlas was gone from Cus D'Amato's training camp by time Tyson was 15, he was not around when Mike was 16. Anyone in media, or not in media, is either misinformed, or lying. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.206.62 (talk) 04:40, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

and maybe you're misinformed or lying. it's clear you have a grudge against Atlas. You're the one who keeps changing the story. You don't seem to know whether he had 1 amatuer fight or a few. the Atlas story was covered on beyond the glory which featured Tyson and Atlas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.158.234.66 (talk) 15:58, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

No, I am very well informed. You keep taking out whole paragrphs of things on site that portray Atlas bad side, and Atlas was, without any question, out when Tyson was 15. Atlas did hang out with gravano, which you for some reason keep delating, he did say in his book that he planned to murder La Londe, which you keep delating, and he did attend trial of drug dealing gangster, which you keep delating. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.255.59.91 (talk) 04:43, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

How do you know? Nothing you've added has a source. You're trying to undermine his amateur career despite not even knowing if he had one fight or a few fights. You keep trying to add your own opinion of him as a trainer into the article, Your claim that Atlas changed the story about the girl years later is your own opinion and several sources state differently. Your obviously some1 who doesnt like Atlas and wants to show him in the worst light possible. Also see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons for why all negative material about a living person should by removed immediately and without discussion if it is not reliably sourced. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.210.163 (talk) 00:45, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Atlas said he wanted and planned to murder La Londe in his book. Not a good enough source? Every account but two you mention, and every person in New York who folowwed boxing in 80's knows Atlas was out when Tyson was 15, and that Atlas himself told people it was over disipline problems, and that Atlas changed story in later rears.


Atlas hanging out with Gravano was widly reported, and his showing up at trial of drug dealer/murderer Anthony Spero was reported in papers--but you don't want that on site, so you erase it. No problem, I will continue to put it up. Have fun. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.246.116.99 (talk) 02:55, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

You're deleting details about his amateur career for no reason. You keep adding your own opinion of him. and you still haven't provided a single source. Meaningless statements like "widly reported" and "every person in New York" does not count. I will continue to remove your vandalism and if you continue to violate wikipedias Biographies of living persons the page will be locked. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.162.71.66 (talk) 19:00, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

In his book, Atlas tells of planning to murder Donny La Londe over something as petty as being fired by La Londe. Atlas portrays self as a man, and tough, but he needed a gun and a friend, according to his own book. He also, at age 26, needed a gun to confront a 15 year old Mike Tyson.

atlas said he was trying to scare tyson after d'amato continually overlooked tyson's indiscretions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.151.125.161 (talk) 03:32, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Everything you'er adding is without a source and your own opinion. Sources say he did have an amateur career. only you say he didn't. The incident with tyson and the girl is sourced., only you say its a lie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.151.125.161 (talk) 03:35, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

And the source??? Teddy Atlas! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.222.5 (talk) 03:41, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

and what's your source??? nothing!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.151.125.161 (talk) 03:44, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

No, my source is folowing this since 1970's. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.222.5 (talk) 04:15, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Go and tell that to the wiki editors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.158.236.227 (talk) 11:56, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Atlas not only won a Golden Gloves title at 139 lbs., he knocked out every opponent he faced. http://www.maxboxing.com/News/scotto111903.asp You can look it up in the Golden Glove archives, too. Guess "everyone in New York" isn't a reliable source, after all... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.74.132.41 (talk) 02:28, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia section

I know it's something of a platitude now, but Wikipedia frowns upon "Trivia" sections and this one is just embarrassing. I'd remove it if I were meaner. SirGrotius 15:38, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] put a gun to tyson's head

didnt he threaten tyson after tyson allegedly made a sexual advance against atlas's 12 year old sister? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.45.61.254 (talk) 02:43, 25 February 2008 (UTC)