Talk:Tannhauser Gate

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[edit] original research

Isn't this entire article original research?

Parts of it appear to be pure speculation. The only concrete facts it is going on are the name and the fact that the main character of Soldier was a veteran of it.


[edit] Origin

I've got a question concerning the origin of the term. The article says that Rutger Hauer used it in the monologue he wrote. I don't think that's true. A different monologue (including the "Tannhauser Gate" reference) already existed in a pre-shooting script from 1981. [1]

AFAIK, Rutger Hauer just changed parts of it and added things (like the famous rain/tears-part). Can some please verify the information given in the article?

  • Yes, the speech is adapted from Peoples' drafts. I own a copy of the December 22, 1980 draft, and it has a similar sppech (no Tannhauser Gate reference, though). It does need to be changed to something like: "Hauer rewrote Peoples' original speech, shortening and sharpening it." Sir Rhosis 00:00, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] C3+ beams?

This article redirects from "C-beam(s)", which are a subject on their own. And not one that is entirely devoid of interesting speculation. Rutger Hauer could have been referring to a laser weapon. This is not a shot in the dark: some of the lasers with highest power output today are the Carbon oxide lasers; perhaps the technology of the weapons used at the Gate is Carbon-based. As for the abbreviation, there's already a particular type of carbon-ion laser with medical applications known as C3+ beam. --CubOfJudahsLion 02:36, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tannhauser Gate Image

This image can be found within the Theatrical Trailer located in the special features section of the Soldier DVD.

This is not an image of Tannhauser Gate. The supplementing voiceover suggests that this is a rendering of a "genetic profile." This can be located between [00:00:45] and [00:00:48] of the trailer.

Suggesting possible removal or replacement of this image with a more appropriate candidate.

01:53, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Yep, that's right. The image is not about Tannhauser Gate, but about the new soldier's DNA. Replacement needed. 192.129.3.135 (talk) 22:51, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A possible explanation

Found this roaming on the net...

"Tannhauser is a renowned Physicist who theorized that 2 black holes revolving around a common point will create a rift in the time/space continuum (for lack of a better word) which theoretically will be a gateway to another part of the universe or time(?) if a ship could travel through it. Thus the name Tannhauser Gate. His theories were the basis of Quantum Physics (I guess his and Einstein's) The way I understand C Beams as mentioned in the movie is that C is basically what the speed of light is (as in E=mc*squared) and with the black holes present in the Tannhauser Gate sucking up space, anything around it would eventually travel through the gate at close to the speed of light = C. and maybe emitting a trail (beam) as it burns out. Hence C Beams. Or maybe it's just another word for light beams as it gets sucked through the gate. one other thing is because space is bent around the gate - hence the C-beam reference (architecture apporache) just mho."

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