Talk:Tam o'shanter (hat)
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I propose moving this to Tam o'shanter (hat) Guinnog 10:48, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Caps and glengarries
Does it not have capital letters? Rich Farmbrough 23:30 28 March 2006 (UTC).
- It probably does. --Guinnog 23:45, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Australian Army
Back in the late 80s A Company (Scottish) 10/27 Bn Royal South Australian Regiment and B Company Scottish 5/6 Bn Royal Victorian Regiment wore tam o'shanters (khaki bonnets). Does this still occur? Ozdaren 15:06, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] =A few errors here
- The appellation 'Tam o Shanter' appears to date from the early 20th century when the khaki bonnet was adopted for Scottish troops on the Western Front, the Glengarry, being by then hard to keep on and offering no protection against the weather, was better suited as barrack and walking out dress.
- The “General Service Cap" had nothing to do with the TOS either in form, structure or material. it was merely another form of the soft crowned, brimless cap (for example, the German ‘mutze’, the Basque beret and indeed the Scottish bonnet) that appeared in Europe during the 16th century.
- The form of the TOS as worn by other ranks, be they of Highland or Lowland regiments, has gone through various forms in the last 20 or 30years: sloping forward; set up almost like a ‘pill box’ cap with the crown cropped to produce a very narrow brim and, latterly, worn sloping to the left like a beret (just as officers' TOS's, made of softer wool, have been worn since at least the Second World War).
- The reason the soldiers of The Black Watch of Canada wear Red Hackles in their bonnets is that it is the distinguishing mark of their parent regiment the Black Watch (Royal Highland Regiment) and it still worn by them in barracks and with combat dress since their incorporation as 3rd Battalion, The Royal Regiment of Scotland.
- “In many regiments, it is traditional for soldiers to wear a tam o'shanter, while officers (and in some cases senior non-commissioned officers) wear the Balmoral or Glengarry instead.” This looks like nonsense. Until the recent amalgamation of the Scottish regiments, there were specific orders of dress that determined whether the TOS or Regimental headgear, be it Glengarry or in the case of the Black Watch in No. 1 or No. 2 Dress, the Balmoral, were worn. In some forms of barrack dress officers and pipers might wear the Glengarry. However in combat order all ranks would wear the TOS undress bonnet (although Lowland regiments did wear wear their Glengarries on the streets of Ulster if circumstances allowed).JF42 19:26, 29 July 2007 (UTC)JF42
When I have time I shall incorporate these points into an re-edited version of the entry

