Talk:Talaq (Nikah)

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"For the majority of the world's Muslims divorce is a right pertaining to men and not to women." - I'd like a source for that. I've seen women issue the Talaq in Indonesia, which is predominantly Sunni, Mali and in Western Sahara. I'm not expert on this, and have not looked into this further, so I'd like a source. --Irishpunktom\^talk 15:25, July 29, 2005 (UTC)

I just moved that part from another article, its not my words, you are invited to change that if its inaccurate.

--Striver 16:08, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Why there is no information about khula which for women is kind of no fault divorce although with no mehr. -anon

What is that? Never heard of it, Add it. --Striver 13:44, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Standard form extra-judicial divorce which parallels the talaq permitting the woman to remarry without the necessity of muhallil or halalah. I am surprised that anyone monitoring this page has not heard of it. David91 14:08, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Hadith 2 reference 3 Islamic term??? Talaq is the literal translation of the word Divorce 4 Triple Talaq is not required to perform divorce (it is more a metaphorical tradition)

[edit] Hadith

Sunnan Abu Dawud 12:2173

Narrated Abdullah ibn Umar: The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Of all the lawful acts the most detestable to Allah is divorce.

--Striver 12:36, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

It remains to be seen exactly what Dr. Salamah is upset about. Even though many Sunni 'ulama (though certainly not all) may believe that Mut'ah is abrogated, nonetheless a Sunni man may do exactly the same thing as Mut'ah even if he does not call it that by name. This is because of the leniency that Sunni Islam has on the matter of divorce. Divorce has almost no conditions in Sunni fiqh. In Shi'ite fiqh (which accords with the Qur'an), divorce requires two witnesses. Furthermore, one is not allowed to divorce one's wife if he has had sexual relations with her since her last menstrual cycle. Rather, he must not have any sexual relationships from the end of menstrual cycle to the end of another (about one month), and then he may recite the Talaq. This, however, is not a condition according to Sunnis. As such, a man may divorce his wife at the drop of a hat.

In this case, we see that a man may marry a woman in a permanent marriage (Nikah), with every intention of divorcing her after he has sex with her. He may marry her, then have sexual relations with her, and immediately announce that she is divorced. This is haram according to Shi'a fiqh, yet it is absolutely halaal according to Sunni fiqh. [1]

--Striver 12:40, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

http://www.zawaj.com/articles/talaq_scales3.html

--Striver 17:00, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

This article contains distortions and lacks important information. For one, Talaq is not synonomous with Divorce in Islam. Talaq is a type of divorce in Islam (with sub-types), and there are other types. It comes from the Arabic root tallaqa, meaning to set free. No, women cannot initiate this. There is also khul': mutual divorce. This is seen as being initiated by the woman, but it must be accepted by the man. There are financial issues that are important in each type. Divorce may be granted by a judge under certain, relatively rare circumstances: desertion or abuse (the latter especially in Maliki law-- North Africa).

The best source for this article would be John Esposito's Women in Muslim Family Law. I will be changing this article soon and citing my sources, including Esposito.

[edit] reference

One of the references has the url of the link instead of a little number. Looking at the wiki markup, it has "ref" and "/ref" exactly like the next reference, which has the little number. Down at the References section the first says "Cite error 8; No text given."

I have no idea how to fix it. anonymous 07:05, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Islamic term??? Talaq is the literal translation of the word Divorce

I am really wondering why the term is attributed the adjective "islamic"? Talaq is the Arabic word equivalent to divorce in English. This term is part of the language and it does not relate only to Islam (Arab Christians and Atheists use the same word to mean divorce). I think the article either should be deleted or make it redirects to Divorce in Islam and not the opposite. Will perform the changes if there's no objections. Bestofmed (talk) 15:22, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Triple Talaq is not required to perform divorce (it is more a metaphorical tradition)

The interpretation is completely wrong. Triple Talaq is a practice or a tradition not recognized by the Sunni Scholars (that is wahy it is named a tradition). In traditional Talaq procedure, one vocal Talaq is sufficient to proceed. To fulfill the Triple Talaq you have to perform divorce three times (in other words marry three times and divorce three times); automatically one can not marry for the fourth time (only after an intermediate marriage). see Triple Talaq for more (I am going to verify that article too). Bestofmed (talk) 15:30, 14 January 2008 (UTC)