Talk:Take Back the Night

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[edit] General issues

Just put the piece into paragraphs to look a little better, and italicised the quote. TheOncomingStorm 21:11, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

FYI I took the liberty of deleting a bit of minor vandalism interjected into one of the sentences EthanAY 15:30, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion about focus

hey there- this phrase is untrue:

"While the march began as a way to protest the violence that women, primarily prostitutes, experienced while walking in public at night"

Prostitutes are NOT the focus of take back the night. Rather women are trying to keep all women from being raped. The marchers are usually RAPE victims or supporters. Not prostitutes.

--12.202.60.227 23:23, 29 January 2006 (UTC)survivor

"The march has since spread to many locales. There is even a presence in rural New Hampshire, where women (and men) stage their annual "Take Back the Night March" throughout the campus." What campus? New Hampshire's not a campus.

The first poster is right that TBTN is not focused on prostitutes today, but the quote is not completely untrue. The fist US TBTN march was down pornography strip in San Francisco and featured a speech from Andrea Dworkin, an anti-pornography and prostitution activist.

Pancho 02:17, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Why is the the first external link called "Prostitutes are not the focus of take back the night. Rape victims are. Not the same, are they?" when it's really a link to JMU's take back the night site? I'm supposing it was a mistake and fixing it. Brutallittlebroad 20:10, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

New Hampshire is not a campus, but i think the sentence/paragraph was just poorly worded, as many many take back the night rallys and marches are held on campuses all over the world.

[edit] Criticism section

Some noob posted this on the front page. put it on the talk page where it belongs. Dear noob, if you want to put your infos on the page, wikify it. Other wise, stay off my internets. "A criticism of the "Criticism": Sexual violence against women happens at an alarming rate. For exact statistics, see the US Government's Center for Disease Control Sexual Violence webpage: http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/svfacts.htm. While I am certain that at some point in history, someone somewhere has lied about being raped, the prevalence of actual sexual assaults still demands our vigilant attention. The suggestion that an act of sexual violence can be "exaggerated" belies the taboo that is still in place in our society regarding sexual violence. No matter how dramatically or undramatically a story of rape is told, sexual assault is a kind of violence that has deep and long-lasting effects on a person. These effects detract not only from the quality of her life and her sense of mental well-being, but also detract from the larger society, as well. The time a woman spends healing from sexual assault is time not spent doing other things." Gtorell 01:34, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I think the "Criticism" section should be deleted. There are zero references to back up any claims it makes -- it sounds like an individual speculating and ranting. Either somebody needs to seriously clean it up or it should be gone.

  • I completely agree---and it is done.--Pinko1977 12:37, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Should there be a section describing the claim to "Reclaim the night"? I'm not sure the night was ever a safe time to walk around town, so it should be more appropriately called "Claim the night"

[edit] Source of quote about freedom of movement and speech

The second quote about freedom of movement being a condition for freedom of speech: the "source" link seems not to be working at the moment. Also, I recognize this as part of a speech by Andrea Dworkin, which is fully available at the link below, shouldn't we cite/link her properly? http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/dworkin/WarZoneChaptIb.html -- Evie 13:27, 3 June 2008 (UTC)