Talk:Sydney Tamiia Poitier
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[edit] Ethnicity
Could John please explain here why the "Afro-Caucasian people" is inappropriate for Ms Poitier ? It is now duly referenced that she has a (very notable) black father and a (somewhat notable) white mother, and that it is arguably part of her appeal. I hope we can have a sensible discussion about this. Right now, I'm taking a wikibreak for a few days, as this is getting close to silly. Cheers, Wedineinheck (talk) 14:56, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
- I (and another admin) have explained in great detail at your talk page why this is not acceptable. To include the category we require verifiable third party sources stating that her ethnic background is in some way significant to her notability. Should you supply that, we can retain the category. Otherwise, it will continue to be removed as it is merely your own synthesis which is not allowed under our policy on the coverage of living people. --John (talk) 15:52, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
- This is another interesting data point for you. --John (talk) 16:44, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
- Well, Wikipedia supports categorizing People by religion and People by race or ethnicity. When I come back, I'll enjoy reading how you prove that Ms Poitier is not biracial. Wedineinheck (talk) 18:52, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
- No, that isn't how it works. The onus is on the person wishing to add dubious information to cite it. If in doubt, we delete. --John (talk) 21:14, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
- Who is "we" ? The info is properly sourced and relevant. Ms Poitier's father is a very notable black man who is notably married to a somewhat notable white woman; hence she is notably biracial. Please give a proper explanation on why this annoys you, or I'll tend to consider you a vandal. Wedineinheck (talk) 09:06, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
- "We" are Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that you are currently editing. I'll make this as simple as I can. 1) Biracial does not equal "Afro-caucasian". 2) To include the category we require verifiable third party sources stating that her ethnic background is in some way significant to her notability. Should you supply that, we can retain the category. Otherwise, it will continue to be removed as it is merely your own synthesis which is not allowed under our policy on the coverage of living people. I hope this helps you to understand why adding this category is not acceptable under our policies. Finally, throwing around terms like vandal is unlikely to advance the debate we are having. --John (talk) 15:20, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
- Who is "we" ? The info is properly sourced and relevant. Ms Poitier's father is a very notable black man who is notably married to a somewhat notable white woman; hence she is notably biracial. Please give a proper explanation on why this annoys you, or I'll tend to consider you a vandal. Wedineinheck (talk) 09:06, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
- No, that isn't how it works. The onus is on the person wishing to add dubious information to cite it. If in doubt, we delete. --John (talk) 21:14, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
- Well, Wikipedia supports categorizing People by religion and People by race or ethnicity. When I come back, I'll enjoy reading how you prove that Ms Poitier is not biracial. Wedineinheck (talk) 18:52, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
- This is another interesting data point for you. --John (talk) 16:44, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
