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[edit] This article needs work

There's no other way to say it. After alot of edits over time with bits expanding and changing, this article has gone downhill and needs a fair bit of work and rewriting to bring it up to a decent standard. The main things are:

  • The lead is outdated and doesn't really provide a 'concise overview' of the article
  • The history section is unbalanced - there is more about the six ACL games then there is about the Championship winning year; some detail would be better outlined in season articles (if not there already); the current season shows alot of recentism
  • Attendances list could be better in Sydney FC season 2007-08?
  • Supporters - needs references and to be written from neutral pov

How are your supporters, supporters? They sit in groups and are allocated a certain area what the hell? Supporters should be all around the pitch the paragraphs don't make good reading either! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.104.51.181 (talk) 22:37, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

  • Rivalries has been discussed before with general consensus that Melbourne only or delete altogether (if anyone want to open this discussion up again, please do) and references are needed
  • Former players should be expanded to include a short note about why each player is notable
  • Scorers - this is ok here since its accurate and up to date, although it will eventually be fifty players long. An alternative place could be at List of Sydney FC players (although this list article needs work too).
  • Other little things - references; bits of vandalism that were missed when reverting; syntax; punctuation; spelling; etc

It is great that there are many different editors willing to have a go to try to improve Sydney FC articles, so lets focus our efforts in the same direction. All of the above is of course just my opinion, so please raise any other opinions here. -Tomperc (talk) 10:48, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Squad changes

A section was added for Squad Changes for the 2008-09 Season below the current squad in January. I moved the info out and into the 07-08 and 08-09 season articles (although the signing of Bridge is yet to be announced by the club). However, its been put back in so I'm opening for discusssion where others think this belongs. - Tomperc (talk) 12:06, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


I dont like the new squad look, it think the simpiler version before was better, instead of spreading everything out, looks ugly as well...anyway open to argue over this matter, Balmain4Life (talk) 13:12, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Colosimo

Hi people, you may remember me as Lt.Barnes2007, however this is the new me rofl. Anyway, Did Simon Colosimo play for Sydney during the PPC? I just wanted to know; cause i know he is officially signed to sydney now, but it says start of 08/09 season. but was he included into the squad for the 08 PPC? Balmain4Life —Preceding comment was added at 09:42, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

  • He did not play - Camw (talk) 10:57, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Why is Colosimo listed as a defender when his preferred position is centre-mid? If he starts getting played as a DF that classification could be justfied but at the moment he is a midfielder first. Screenwipe (talk) 00:31, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Probably a typo - changed now anyway. - Tomperc (talk) 12:26, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Other changes?

Do we know of any new signings, possible future foreigners, or have we spent all our pennies on Aloisi, and Bridge etc...
...also do we know when Mike Enfield, and Adam Casey will be back in the squad, and if so, will they be staying due to the recent signings.Nath1991 (talk) 12:21, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Indications are that there will be a few low key signings to complete the squad, likely to be announced when pre-season training starts at the end of this month.
Enfield still has a year to run on his contract, but who knows since Kosmina hasn't actually seen him kick a ball yet. He's possibly going to be ready for the start of the season, but given that he tore both ACL and MCL, it will probably be longer.
I think Casey will be back ready for the start of the year, and he's got another year on his deal. I don't think either of them are going to be released by Sydney as the squad is small enough already! - Tomperc (talk) 12:46, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Patrick

Patrick has been released, should he go in the notable former players section? Screenwipe (talk) 13:41, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

  • I would argue that he did not have a notable contribution to the club (8 games, 2 goals) and was not very notable prior to playing for Sydney, so he should not be included. Camw (talk) 01:50, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
    • "No" from me. batobatobato (talk) 06:42, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
    • Not many games and hasn't been capped at full international level, so no. - Tomperc (talk) 12:13, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
  • The problam with these sort of discussions is, what would you call notable???. I think he was a good asset, just never really clicked. Would you call Juninho a Notable player??? 15 odd appearances, 0 goals. Would you put him down because he played for Brazil, and clubs like Middlesbrough and Celtic??? The only notable thing really from Juninho is that the docters and nurses at Prince of Wales Hospital seemed to get to know him well. haha Balmain4Life (talk) 08:29, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
The general standard adopted through Wikiproject Football is that a player has either played a significant number of games for the club and/or is a full international. This is generally applied for most clubs to draw a line somewhere, since this part of the article is not intended to be a long list. Happy to open up some discussion on a criteria for Sydney players. - Tomperc (talk) 10:12, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ufuk Talay

How much was talay released for when he went to join Mark Rudan at Avispa??? Balmain4Life (talk) 08:27, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Free. He signed for season 1 on a three-year contract which finished this year. - Tomperc (talk) 10:12, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

When a player is released they have normally left by mutual consent (the club sacking them) or through their contract expiring. As this is the case no fee is required. I know football is in it's very infinite years in both America and Australia but you must know this, this is basic stuff. 9 year old football fans would be ashamed of that post! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.104.51.181 (talk) 22:32, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

The personal attacks are unnecessary and maybe you should check your facts. In Talay's case he was still under contract for another month or so when he left for Japan. He exercised a clause that is common in most playing contracts that in the final few months of a contract, where a player can seek a transfer without the former club requiring a fee. - Tomperc (talk) 11:21, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mark Milligan Rumour

Do we have a source on this appart from Mariana Rudan? If not suggest revert. Screenwipe (talk) 12:49, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. I have removed Milligan from the 'out' list until it is confirmed.
[dM] (talk) 12:13, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

But hasnt he moved to French side RC Lens? That's what ive seen/heard/rumoured Nath1991 (talk) 12:22, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Juninho

I have just noticed that Juninho got taken off squad list and the 'still in debate' section, has it been officially announced that he has been released or sacked???. I know he had gone home back to Brazil during the off season to see family and what not, but have not heard anything other then that, as far as i know Sydney haven't released and press confrenses or listed it on their website. Anyone know anythin i dont??? Nath1991 (talk) 16:00, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I have just read a article that has just confirmed it, my apologies, i didnt relize it. Nath1991 (talk) 07:27, 13 April 2008 (UTC)