Talk:Swedish Mauser

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[edit] Swedish Mauser page

This entire article is so full of errors it needs a complete rewrite. As well, the name of the factory where these rifles were built is spelled out on the rifle itself: Gustaf not Gustav. Aside from that its a very poorly written and unresearched page. I may make an attempt to do this page but I just don't have the time at present. --DutchSwedishMauser (talk) 14:44, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps you could give us some examples of the errors you've noticed? That way, other editors with a bit more time might be able to make a start on correcting them. --Commander Zulu (talk) 09:10, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

The most repeated error is the misspelling of Gustaf. Then in the 2nd paragraph: "Both rifles were based on the Mauser action, but differed in being "cock-on-closing".." The problem is evident that the writer doesn't know anything about the subject matter. The 1896 action *is* a Mauser. It doesn't differ from anything. The writer's only other reference is the Lee-Enfield and K98k Mauser. Then: "The Model 1896 (M96) rifle (6,5 mm Gevär m/96) was adopted by Sweden on March 20, 1896,". No mention that production did not begin until 1898 for the m/96. And no mention at all of the 1895 Mauser Oberndorf carbine contract or the Swedish m/1894 carbines. Then: "The M96 remained in production until 1938, when it was replaced by the M38 Carbine." The m/96 ceased production in 1924. The m/38 is not a carbine, its a rifle, a gevär. Then: "A number of M96 rifles were officially converted to M38 configuration, and are known as M96/38 rifles, to differentiate them from as-manufactured M38 rifles. All M38 rifles were manufactured by Husqvarna". The 96-38 nominclature is American in origin. There was no distiction between the converted rifles and the purpose built Husqvarna rifles. Then: "successfully transformed by Carl Gustav Arsenal". Carl Gustafs stads Gevarsfaktori. The book cited is known to be so full of errors as to be nearly useless. "Crown Jewels: The Mauser in Sweden" by Dana Jones is the only worthwhile book on the subject (my name is in it as a contributor). The entire composition of this article is just utterly useless, I'm sorry to say. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DutchSwedishMauser (talk • contribs) 16:00, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

In the sidebar: "Waffenfabrik Mauser AG". Should be Waffenfabrik Mauser Oberndorf a/n. Where it says "production history" and then "designed 1896". Designed is not production. Variants do not include the many variations of the 1894 carbine such as the 1901 school carbines, fortress carbines, gallery carbines, m/94 and m/94-14 differenciated. The stated muzzle velocity is incorrect for the m/96 rifle. The sights are "iron"?? Actually they're steel but the description should be square post front and U-notch rear with a stepped ladder for elevation. Are you understanding now the degree of error in this article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DutchSwedishMauser (talk • contribs) 16:09, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] An example of an outstanding presentation.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krag-J%C3%B8rgensen This is how the Swedish Mauser deserves to be presented. It should be used as a template for the Swede. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DutchSwedishMauser (talk • contribs) 16:14, 15 January 2008 (UTC)