Talk:Swami Lakshman Joo
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Where is Lakshman joo's Holy Shrine located ? what is the location of his expiry, where he expired ? NOIDA, U.P
[edit] Nature of Article: POV
This sounds more like a hagiography than a proper encyclopedia article. Things like "he achieved mahasamadhi", which require the reader to espouse a lot of very biased viewpoints, are inappropriate for Wikipedia. I work all day, but if I can't get to this, I hope someone else finds the time.
Peace,
--LordSuryaofShropshire 03:02, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Namaskarji. This is the accurate and technical way of describing a soul's journey out of the Kantha or above. ॐ नमःशिवाय Śaiva Sujīt सुजीत ॐ 17:58, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
- Swami Lakshmanjoo was possibly the most respected teacher of Kashmir Shaivism of the past decade. He personally sought no publicity, but gave freely of his knowledge. There are many other accounts of famous people who sought him out (Indira Gandhi, Dr. Karan Singh, Mahesh Yogi, Muktananda, Gopi Krishna...the list is endless), but since his only interest was Kashmir Shaivism, this page deals with his life in relation to that subject alone. George 05:39, 17 Feb '08 (UTC)
I agree with the hagiographic critique and added an advert tag to the article. This needs cleanup. Which is not to say that he was not a highly respected teacher nor was he interested in advertising himself. Just that the language in this article is not neutral. It's going to take a lot of work to fix everything to a non-promotional attitude. - Owlmonkey (talk) 17:54, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
- Also, there are two competing biographic sections? They need to be merged. And the lineage section reads like a religious text not a neutral encyclopedic discussion of the lineage that he held. Many issues here. - Owlmonkey (talk) 18:23, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
OK, I attempted a merge of the two biographic sections, removing point of view style language as I went. I put the lineage narrative into a blockquote so it's intact but does not appear as factual encyclopedic content. I know lineage can be quite important in some hindu and buddhist traditions, and showing an unbroken and pure lineage is central to a teaching, but I'm not sure if the entire narrative is something that should be on an encyclopedia article about him. Question, should Swami Ram's name be rendered "Ram" or "Raam". It appears in both forms in the article right now and we should be consistent. - Owlmonkey (talk) 19:05, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
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- I think the distinction between "Raam" and "Ram" is that the former is the "simple transliteration" while the latter is a lazy IAST transliteration, and I agree that we should be consistent in this choice. In IAST, it would be spelled "Rāma", which is much more difficult to type, so I would personally prefer to spell it Raam. Śaiva Sujīt (talk) 12:10, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
