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[edit] Any one want to save this article?
This article ia a big mess-up and throws together to confederations that are not related and whose intentions and common enemies were diametrically opposed.
That is for one the Swabian City League of the 14th century. A coalition of imperial cities against the emerging territorial powers.
And that is the Swabian League of the turn of the 15th/16th century. A peacekeeping coalition of territiorial states, free knights and barons, imperial cities and church territories.
The article as it is now can only be saved by a big vacuum cleaner. --Wuselig 00:40, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
- How about two articles. Swabian City League of 1331 and Swabian League of 1488 with a disambiguation page? Or keep it as one article with two subsections. In the intro it would then have to be stressed that the two were formed independently.imars 08:06, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
- Two articles are a must. The one doesn't have anything to do with the other, nevertheless they are often confused, even in Germany. The one beeing a cooperation of the emerging cities to defend their interests against the emerging territorial powers in the political context of the early 14th Centuary. The other beeing a cooperation of all (or most to be precise) political entities in Southern Germany (Swabia) as a peacekeeping treaty organization. Now in the context of Pre-Reformation Germany. In this context the latter is interesting for the Project Lutheranism, wheras the former is interesting for the Projekt Middle Ages.--Wuselig 10:41, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
