Talk:Svabhava

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[edit] Svabhava is a "Mahayana" concept?

I just want to highlight some potential sloppiness and unintentional errors in my recent edit: Based on the PTS Pali-English Dictionary, it does not appear that svabhava is used in the Pali Canon in the way it is used in Mahayana texts. However, based on some Internet-accessible writings by Y. Karunadasa (e.g., BPS Wheel 412/413?) and Red Pine's writing in his book, "The Heart Sutra" (2005), p. 68, it appears that this concept might have first arose with the Sarvastivadins. Thus, is it fair to label this as a "Mahayana" concept or would something else be more accurate (while retaining this editor's current limited understanding that it is not used to denote "intrinsic nature" [permanent stratum] in Theravada canonical texts)?
Sorry for my ignorance and I regret if my edit is erroneous or misleading. Thanks for any correction or corroboration, Larry Rosenfeld (talk) 04:19, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

• Hallo Larry. Thanks for your very informative posting. It's always a real pleasure to hear from you. I think you are right, and that I need to add a comment in the main article, saying that the term is used in a different way in Theravada Buddhism. Your note is really good, I think - not sloppy at all. Anyway, I'll add a comment now. If you feel unhappy with it, please change it!

Best wishes to you, Larry. From Tony. TonyMPNS 08:15, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Tony - You're writing's excellent as always. Thanks, Larry Rosenfeld (talk) 16:37, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

• Thank you, Larry: you do such great work on Wikipedia. And your style of discussion is exemplary. If ever anyone on Wiki knows what the Buddhist teaching of "gentle speech" means in practice - it is you, Larry. No need to reply to this! Warm regards. From Tony. TonyMPNS 16:39, 25 June 2007 (UTC)