User talk:SUVx

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[edit] Welcome!

Greetings SUVx!

I just saw that you had created a new account, and felt that I should welcome you to the project, though I sense by your first few edits that you have likely been around for a while, and already have a basic familiarity with the system.

I do want to point something out to you that you may not be aware of: i also easily could accuse you of the same shit...but i don't since it would be uncivil. just because i agree with the others, you accuse me of some bullshit! ohhhh suuuureee!!! it's all just a big bad "conspiracy" against you...uhhhhuuuuuuuu!

Making statements with language like this can come across as being juvenile by some editors (please note: I am >>not<< calling you juvenile), I am just stating an opinion that I have found to be prevalent across this site. I would also say that statements like this do not help in building a case to support a viewpoint. Further, writing whole words in capital letters can equally come across as juvenile to some editors. If I could give you some advice, it would be to think about that a little.

Second, regarding sockpuppetry: On the talkpage where you have been spending a great deal of your edit time, you may have noticed that there were many recent comments left by several anonymous IPs. This is not an issue. It is fairly normal that after this has occurred, that if a new account suddenly appears ... especially one that appears to have knowledge as to what is going on, not just with wikipedia, but with an apparent argument, that it is natural to jump to the conclusion that the new account may also represent one of these anon IPs. It also adds to the case when a review of your contributions shows that a vast majority of them are to a single article. It can give the impression of holders of a particular point of view trying to "gang up". Please note: I am >>not<< accusing you of being a sockpuppet. I am simply trying to explain why it might be easy for one or more editors to reach that conclusion so quickly .... while not trying to derail an editor with a differing viewpoint.

By now you must be wondering why I, with a differing viewpoint than yours, would give you this advice? I am doing it because my first and foremost goal is the improvement of this site's articles. Even editors that have different viewpoints than mine need to be able to make contributions, when they are applicable. When they do, I want their contributions to receive the fullest attention.

I wish you the best of luck in your editing. LonelyBeacon (talk) 16:36, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

• listen, such accusations create a hostile atmosphere which doesn't make it easy to communicate well with people like you. you cannot simply accuse somebody of this and that and then expect to be take seriously. and so _I_ must be wodering for what purpose you people attack others who disagree with you.SUVx (talk) 17:51, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

I have accused you of nothing, and have done nothing to attack you. If you feel that I have attacked you, could you please tell me where so that I can apologize or at least explain myself.

Having said that, at this point you called User talk:Kwamikagami a troll. Name calling, such as it is, is a violation of Wikipedia's Wikiquette policy. If you are unfamiliar with it, please read it before you do this again. Also, please consider this a polite warning to stop with name calling. LonelyBeacon (talk) 19:47, 14 June 2008 (UTC)