Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/NYkid0709

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the case of suspected sockpuppetry. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page. All edits should go to the talk page of this case. If you are seeing this page as a result of an attempt to open a new case of sockpuppetry of the same user, read this for detailed instructions.

[edit] User:NYkid0709

Suspected sockpuppeteer

NYkid0709 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

DeathSeeker (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log · rfcu) (see pattern of contributions)

Suspected sockpuppets

Not NYkid0709 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
70.101.196.236 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) (contributions, time of edits)
Meow07 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) (nature of edits follow precisely the same pattern)


Report submission by

(Nuggetboy) (talk) (contribs) 18:57, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Evidence

NYkid0709 (talk · contribs) was blocked. Then, "Not NYkid0709" shows up with a revert to one of the articles puppetmaster was previously working on. - (Nuggetboy) (talk) (contribs) 19:14, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Comments

The name of the new account, timing after block, and nature of first edit seems consclusive. - (Nuggetboy) (talk) (contribs) 19:17, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

It seems, through looking at autoblock list, that NYkid0709 was unaware of the block until a few hours later. Eli Falk 22:48, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
I am not sure what the autoblock list is. What I can tell from his block log, from talk page history and editor contribs is the following:
As well, it stands to reason that the user would know right away—by not being able to edit—that there was a block. - (Nuggetboy) (talk) (contribs) 07:43, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
  • 23:28 11 January 2007 - NYkid0709 tried to edit using his account. Since his account was blocked, that resulted in an autoblock. See WP:BLOCK#Effects of being blocked. Eli Falk 19:12, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Eli Falk 19:12, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
I see what you mean. However, this does not necessarily mean the user was unaware of the block, just that s/he tried to edit whilst being blocked. The notification of a talk page message (left by the blocker) would have appeared and the user could have known immediately, then tried to actually edit ~9 hours later. As well, the new user was created right after the block. To me, this says nothing but sockpuppet. It doesn't matter anyway. The suspected sockpuppet has not made any further edits and the suspected puppetmaster's block has expired. - (Nuggetboy) (talk) (contribs) 19:34, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

I'd say a quick and dirty look at DeathSeeker's 123wiki123 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) account shows a similar obsession with the Canada icon, at the least. Syrthiss 14:25, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Conclusions

Okay. This is a bit convoluted, but here's what's come out of it:

  • By the username, time of creation, and only edit being to continue the reversions that NYkid0709 (talk · contribs) had been doing, Not NYkid0709 (talk · contribs) will be blocked as a sockpuppet. The time of attempted editing causing an autoblock is interesting, but it's highly possible that he saw the message that he was blocked, created a new account, and tried to edit from his original account later.
  • DeathSeeker (talk · contribs) clearly edits from 123wiki123 (talk · contribs), but has given rationale for its usage. Although they did engage collectively in some 3RR some time ago, for now it seems legitimate. From this diff, the IP 70.101.196.236 (talk · contribs) is also related, but there hasn't been any issue.
  • Without checkuser, there doesn't seem to be strong evidence that DeathSeeker and related accounts are indeed related to Nykid0709. Since none of the accounts are currently disruptive, it doesn't fit any of the possible case requests, and therefore can't be performed. If edits from these various accounts return and are disruptive, further investigation may be appropriate.
  • Similar reasoning applies to Meow07 (talk · contribs). Though the edits are similiar, they may or may not be different users, and without checkuser (again, not appropriate in this situation), we can't be sure.

-- Natalya 18:42, 15 February 2007 (UTC)