Talk:Surf and turf

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[edit] Bad?

Bold textQUERY: Is this phrase commonly used in a derogatory way?

See Ebert for example http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050721/REVIEWS/50711003/1023

Sounds like he uses it as a metaphor for something bad, a hodge-podge. If this is generally so then the page should mention the overtones?

196.21.78.18 20:22, 30 September 2006 (UTC) David MacKay

This Web page gives some different details:

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/surf-and-turf.html

1. There was earlier usage in non-food products and ads

2. It connotates a lower-end food, at least for a time

(unsigned comment by User:60.49.89.80 at 2007-01-31T08:43:33)

The non-food uses are interesting, but I'm not sure how relevant they are to this article on the food.

It's not so much a lower-end food as a pretentious food at mediocre (middle-brow) restaurants. If we can find some more good sources for that besides the Sterns, let's add them. I'm not sure that phrases.org.uk is a particularly good source.... --Macrakis 13:35, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Paddock & Dam

I've also eaten a marron & beef combo called "Paddock & Dam". Gemfyre 12:15, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

On the show Hells Kitchen starring Gordon Ramsey, The contestants usually make a surf and turf for their menu. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.161.124.245 (talk) 20:45, 21 May 2008 (UTC)