Talk:Suppression of the Society of Jesus
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[edit] Suggestion
Suggest the item under Portugal about "Seven Reductions of Paraguay" is worth copying to Paraguay history - or somehow that country's history is x-ref to this article.
[edit] Highly POV
This article needs to be re-done. It's greatly based on the point of view of the Catholic Church and does not present the two sides of the story. For a power that the Jesuit order was, it definitely had to be more then just the poor innocent Jesuits.
This article is very biased. Language needs to be changed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.127.213.130 (talk) 02:21, 25 January 2007 (UTC).
I also was annoyed by the comment next to the reference to Catholic Encyclopedia. It should be noted that these were all still Catholic nations which expelled the Jesuits. The Jesuit perspective and the "Catholic perspective" are certainly not the same. Let's not oversimplify. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.117.87.130 (talk) 05:37, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
I also agree. The article seems to be from a pro-Jesuit perspective, minimizing non-Jesuit Catholic views, and secular views as well. I get the vibe that this was written by a Jesuit as a PR piece. There are little to no citations which makes it even worse. I am adding the citation tag. Lwnf360 (talk) 07:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Poorly written
The article seems to write off Jesuit missionary work in the New World as a purely commercial enterprise, which has little or no basis in truth. I'd like to see this article revised to some semblance of objectivity. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Falkan (talk • contribs) 07:29, 7 May 2007 (UTC).
[edit] sloppy writing
I couldn't help but notice the exact phrase "The expulsion of the Society of Jesus from the Roman Catholic nations of Europe and their colonial empires is also seen as the first triumph of the secularist notions of the Enlightenment" is found twice in this article. Repeating a lengthy phrase like that is a bad idea in any writing.
[edit] not sloppy writing, but ideology
Repeating that phrase is not casual, but an ideological attempt to link Enlightenment, secularism, opposition to the Company of Jesus and the dark side of the French Revolution.
[edit] Plagiarism
This article is basically plagiarized with minor changes from the catholic encyclopedia. We need someone to give a serious study of this. As I understand it, the plantation employed slavery and did indeed work for the profit of the order of jesuits.
BTW, it wasn't for profit as such. Vows of poverty, right! The money that was made on these plantations was used to fund the schools and other institutions which were part of the mission. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.117.87.130 (talk) 05:36, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] The picture recently added
Is the caption right? Is it really called "The Marquis of Pombal expelling the Jesuits from Portugal"?! I'd like to see a reference. FilipeS (talk) 23:04, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Citations and POV
I added the citations tag. The article also has POV issues as discussed above. Comments and providing of sources are welcome. Lwnf360 (talk) 07:54, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
