Talk:Superleggera

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[edit] Merge with Spaceframe?

On the face of it I would say that Superleggera and Spaceframe are one and the same thing, except that the Spaceframe article deals primarily with a spaceframe in generic terms, while superleggera deals more specifically with spaceframe car chassis. I think the best solution would be to create a new article called "Spaceframe chassis" and redirect Superleggera to that, because someone looking up a spaceframe car chassis would not really find what they're looking for on the Spaceframe article.

I disagree most strongly: Superleggera and spaceframe are very different things indeed which is why space frame vehicles do not infringe the patents registered by Touring of Milan: The Superleggera construction was in essence a tubluar steel frame for the support of the vehicle panelwork and nothing else. Superleggera coachwork is mounted upon a separate chassis or floorpan

A space frame not only supports the vehicle body panels but also acts as the vehicle chassis - unlike Superleggera which is purely a coachwork construction. Space frames (unlike Superleggera) require no separate chassis and provide mounting points for the vehicle suspension.

I also disagree Superleggera can be viewed as as a much ligher replacement for the wood (ash) frames used in tradditional coachbuilding, the best examples of superleggera construction can be seen on 1960s high end sports cars such as some Ferrari and Aston Martin models. A spaceframe chassis uses 25mm or larger tubes, usually steel which are MIG or TIG welded, or bronze welded ("brazed" sic) togther to form a box like three dimensional structure which is crossed braced with diagonal members to prevent racking, the load paths are widely seperated and ideally all structural members are loaded as ties or struts. Good examples of spaceframe chassis are the Lotus 18 and Cateringvan Seven.

Strongly disagree. Not only do I disagree with merging this article with Space frame, I believe that tube frame should redirect to space frame and not to this article.

Superleggera is a system that was patented by Carrozzeria Touring to fabricate coachbuilt bodies. Tube frames and space frames are used as load-bearing structures and would be used in automobiles as chassis, mostly in sports cars where the combination of rigidity and light weight are of utmost importance. Respectfully, SamBlob 19:12, 19 October 2007 (UTC)