Talk:Sunny Leone/Archive01
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[edit] Concerning the removal of an unreferenced comment
I have removed the following due to its lack of a verifiable reference:
- She would like to do Hardcore but is conservative at this time. Though publicly bisexual, she has declared that she would love to settle down one day with a Pakistani guy. Something that has intrigued her parents for quite sometime, who're from an Indian descent.
Please provide a reference so that it can be evaluated independently. Thank you! -- Joe Beaudoin Jr. Think out loud 08:05, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Picture?
Is there a reason that particular picture is being used? Neither the Jenna Jameson nor Tera Patrick article have such a 'sexy' softcore picture.--Dead men's bells 22:46, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Because Wikipedia has a built-in bias that prefers pictures that are licensed either through the GFDL or Creative Commons over those that simply carry a "fair-use" tag. The pic on the Sunny Leone page is GFDL'd, while the ones on the Tera Patrick and Jenna Jameson are licensed via the Creative Commons. In fact, if you check the recent history, you'll see that the pic on the Tera Patrick page was deliberately reverted back from a sexy "fair-use" one which someone posted to the current creative commons one because of this bias. As well, the underlying purpose behind the pic differs. The Sunny pic was deliberately shot as cheesecake, the Tera and Jenna are both pics of them on a semi-casual basis. We'd love to get "better" pics of Tera and Jenna (as well as any other porn star) that have wiki-friendly licensing. Tabercil 23:01, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sikh Heritage
Just to note that Sunny Leone comes from a Sikh background, i can understand that there are some who might not be happy with this association but it is an established and interesting fact and should be included in her wiki page. Please stop deleting the reference as it gets tiresome reverting the entry.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.103.105.94 (talk • contribs) 00:59, August 16, 2007 (UTC)
- I've protected the article for a few days against vandalism. Hopefully this'll blow over. Tabercil 06:18, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Contacting Jimbo Wales
The Shiromani Gurdwara Prabandhak Committee which is the parliment of the Sikhs, the governing body of the Sikhs and is a equivalent of the Vatican. Has defined no such thing as a "Sikh background". Under the the governing body of Sikhism there is no such thing as a Sikh background. What you seem to not understand in the west is you cannot be born a Sikh. You only become a Sikh and have voting rights in Sikhism and at the Golden temple when you are baptised Sikh Khalsa. If you are not a baptized Sikh then you have no official status or recognition in Sikhism. Neither of her parent were baptized Sikhs or her so how on earth can you claim she comes from a Sikh background. If this isn't recitified quickly I am officially going to contact User:Jimbo Wales and get the Akal Takht at the Golden temple [1] to contact Jimbo Wales to sort this out.--Sikh historian (talk) 20:40, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
- Slow up folks... no need to escalate things that fast. You're saying that the statement in the article regarding her being Sikh is incorrect. I'm inclined to take you at your word but there's a clear reference to an news article on the Net which call her Sikh; from the referenced news article: " Sunny Leone - the adopted name of the Sikh girl...". Now obviously I'm not Sikh, so I don't know the ins and outs of the religion, but I'm willing to learn. Can you point me to authoritative statements on the Net to back up your contentions? The most glaring statement from you would be that neither of her parents were baptised Sikhs, since Wikipedia's living people biography policy would directly relate to that. As well, your first attempt at editing the article also removed the statement that she was of an Indian Punjabi background as you said then: "The citation has be removed because it is incorrect." One of the cited sources is the Toronto Star, which is the newspaper with the highest circulation in Canada; from that source: "Sunny Leone didn't grow up dreaming of being a porn star. It was the allure of financial independence and the surging popularity of South Asian culture in North America that drew the Punjabi princess to adult entertainment." (emphasis mine) How was the Toronto Star article in error?? Tabercil (talk) 23:18, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
- Just checked and did a search on the Toronto Star article [2] the work "Sikh" is NOT mentioned EVEN once.--79.77.180.227 (talk) 04:54, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
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- Hi, I have been a baptized Khalsa Sikh for 30 years I have full-voting rights in the Sikh SGPC & Akal Takht in India so does my wife she is a full-baptized Sikh. I have two children one is 17 years old, the other is 25 years even though they have been to born to FULL baptized Khalsa Sikh they are not officially recognised in Sikhism, if they went to the Golden temple, they would not be allowed vote to elect anyone to any governing organ of Sikh religion, not allowed in certain holy sanctum of the temples and etc because they are not OFFICIALLY recognized because they are not BAPTIZED Sikh (a.k.a Khalsa). Once you become a baptized Khalsa Sikh (Pure) you have to live by the codes of conduct of Sikh Sikhism.
You could call yourself a Sikh tomorrow but that would NOT mean you are:
- 1. You would have to become baptized Khalsa
- 2. You would to live by the code of conduct for the rest of you life (in order to meet the obligations you agreed to when you were baptized)
- Sikhism is a very complex religion, the most not understood and one of the MOST unknown religion.
Most family's children who are immigrants in the west don't even know about Baptism in Sikhism (Khalsa) or have read any of the scripture. Indeed most can't even read Punjabi the script the holy scripture are written in and most are beginning to lose the ability to even be able to speak Punjabi.
Its not on her personal site. That fact of the matter is this is a third-rate unreliable western reporter who knows nothing about deep complexities of Sikhism and has just put whatever in to make the article appear exotic and eye catching. My friend most of the Sikh websites are massively incorrect including wikipedia. The ONLY website that I would class as OK is www.sikhs.org (There is a lot of things it does not cover, but the BASICS it does cover are mostly correct). You can keep Punjabi there and Indian but Sikh is incorrect. You have to read a least 3-5 GOOD BOOKS to JUST to begin to understand Sikhism.--Sikh historian (talk) 00:17, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
- As you point out, the reference to her being Sikh isn't that good so I'll let the removal stand. I will give a heads-up though that if a better source comes along (e.g., she gives an interview where she clearly self-identifies herself as Sikh), then the issue will have to be reopened. Until then, I'll let sleeping dogs lie. Tabercil (talk) 01:00, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
- I've put a good reading book list on your page.--Sikh historian (talk) 01:43, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
- Hey Tabercil , You should then also mention that majority of american pornstars are christians. i don't need to point you towards the links. Google and you can find them wearing cross while doing their stuff on camera. you have major case for doing that. Don't you?Ajjay (talk) 08:03, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
- Also she won't be considered a sikh, even if she declares that. To associate someone with a religion , it has to be judged by her work, lifestyle and social behaviour. She will never be able to live up to it. All pornstars are mentally disturbed, i don't have to refer it, it is understood. It is stated in Holy Quran that all persons are born Muslims. But that doesn't make every one a Muslim. I hope you get my point fella!Ajjay (talk) 08:11, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

