Talk:Sun-1

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[edit] Fewer than 200?

This seems way low. Maybe fewer than 200 68000-based systems before cutting over to 68010? I find it hard to believe that Sun sold only 200 systems in all of 1982, since the Sun-2 series didn't come out until 1983.

It's not totally certain to me from accounts I've read, but it sounds like they did cut over to the 68010 in Sun-1 systems before the Sun-2 series was launched. If so, this might explain the "less than 200" number.--NapoliRoma 18:12, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I was an early Sun employee and I remember the Sun1/100 upgrade program. Although I was not directly involed It seemed to last for over a year. I also know there were a lot of Sun 1/100 used internally at sun. Probably more than 40, maybe more than 75 or so. I also know they continued making them until 1985, mostly for millitary contracts that could not upgrade to the newer Sun 2's I also belive that once the Sun2 Multibus boards were availble, the Sun1 series were shipped with the newer boards. Robert.harker (talk) 23:12, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to delete the line from the article -- I know we're in WP:NOR territory again, but not really, since the actual problem is that there's no source for the "fewer than 200 systems" statement -- Robert just reinforces that the number is improbably low.--NapoliRoma (talk) 23:47, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Models

Authoritative information about the Sun-1 series is pretty hard to come by on the web. However, there is a reference to a "Sun 170" in the Sun Hardware Reference, which claims it was distinct from the 2/170, although it may have had a 68010 CPU board. Also, if this is a Sun 100, it seems a bit small to be housing 7 Multibus slots? Letdorf (talk) 09:55, 23 April 2008 (UTC).

There was a Sun-1 rackmount server. it was called the Sun1/150. I know, I have one. The Sun2/170 was an upgrade of the design with the Sun-2 multibus boards and an upgraded power supply. Evenually it also got an upgraded Multibus backplane. The reference to the Sun 100 is correct and yes it was a 7 slot chassis, again I know, I have one. Robert.harker (talk) 23:12, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I'll take your word for it.... but strictly speaking, "I know, I have one" counts as original research I think! :-) (see WP:NOR). By the way, one thing I haven't been certain about was whether Sun's nomenclature at the time included the "1/" in the Sun-1 model numbers (eg. was it officially the "Sun 100", or was it the "Sun 1/100"?) ... or was the "1/" maybe retrospectively added after the Sun-2 was launched? Letdorf (talk) 17:04, 24 April 2008 (UTC).

So if I read WP:NOR, if I post pictures of the gear, then it is allowed as original research. Robert.harker (talk) 21:47, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

That's slightly weird phrasing—or maybe it's accurate phrasing to describe a semi-weird contradiction: on Wikipedia, "original research" is a bad thing. But original photos are a good thing.

This is out of necessity, of course, since WP can't include any copyrighted material, so the main source for illustrations is going to be copylefted photos, most of which will be contributed by their original creator.

So a possible way to weasel out of the WP:NOR problem. If Robert contributes photos of his Sun-1 systems, illustrating the number of Multibus slots in each, he is no longer the source, the system itself is, so it's no longer "original" research.--NapoliRoma (talk) 23:42, 24 April 2008 (UTC)