Talk:Sumac

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Sumac is included in the 2007 Wikipedia for Schools, or is a candidate for inclusion in future versions. Please maintain high quality standards, and make an extra effort to include free images, because non-free images cannot be used on the CDs.

If anyone cares, here are my sources for saying that some species are grown as ornamentals: Plants of the Southwest (glabra, microphylla, trilobata), High Country Gardens (aromatica, cultivar of trilobata), Wayside Gardens (yellow-leaved cultivar of typhina). —JerryFriedman 20:12, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I can indeed confirm this for what it counts. By the way, it should be noted that this shall not be pruned. I wrongly did it last year and it still didn't catch up (no flowers this year :( ). MaxDZ8 talk 20:35, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Somewhat curious...

I have two of these in my garden. I was pretty surprised they are called Sumac because my books here refer to this as Rhus. Is there any difference with the two? I believe I may want to post some additional photos - my flower is different, initially green, then turning red for all the winter and the photos does not show tree topology. It'll take some months before it warms up enough to live. MaxDZ8 20:15, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Sumac is the English name, Rhus is the scientific name. Same thing. - MPF 00:52, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New pics!

I've just uploaded two pics showing Sumac's trunk texture at the commons. I'm not sure where this shall go but I'll put'em here. I hope you find this useful.

Detail of trunk texture (also see the roughness) A bending trunk. Sawed off branch at the top. MaxDZ8 talk 08:33, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

A broken branch. I think it's useful to see the internal structure. This kind of wood is very elastic but too weak for serious use. On cutting, it releases some liquids you should not touch - cleaning them away is almost impossible! Those years' flowers are somewhat disappointing compared to the previous seasons but since a detail of this sub-species is missing, I believe this is a nice addition. Measure of an average flower. MaxDZ8 talk 19:08, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Broken link

    As of 2006/07/19 the Nebraska Extension link no longer points to the information 
 described, and the redirected location does not readily locate the publication 
 mentioned.

               roberthuff@rcn.com

[edit] Poisonous?

Hi, other sources of info on the Rhus have gone on about it being poisonous, eg:[1] but is this the same Rhus? If it's not should there be a disambiguation page rather than directing here to sumac? Alexander110 (talk) 02:48, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

There is a paragraph about that tree, Toxicodendron succedaneum, at Toxicodendron. The genus Toxicodendron is sometimes included in Rhus although I think the trend these days is to split it out. This article does mention Toxicodendron in the Taxonomy section. Kingdon (talk) 03:37, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Alexander110 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 04:14, 22 May 2008 (UTC)