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[edit] More Top Tens Since...

"they have had more top ten hits with original songs than any other girl group since The Supremes, Destiny's Child, and Bananarama" This sentence is worded poorly and the reference given (a BBC web page) doesn't appear to support it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.46.248.226 (talk) 19:42, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Siobhan Donaghy's departure

Can anyone be bothered to write the deal about Siobhan leaving? I saw her in an interview say she told the rest of the band she was visiting the ladies' just before a concert but went off and never said why she was leaving etc. And she had a (presumably failed) solo career or something. Sorry i see it says about her solo career. --137.205.139.44 00:17, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Spiral and Red Dress

If Spiral is going to be released then is it still necessary to list Red Dress because it is unlike that one will be released shortly after the other because they tend to wait until a single has left the charts before releasing the next one. KittenKlub 12:57, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Spiral is William Orbit's single not the sugababes. It will be 'Spiral' William Orbit FEAT. sugababes.


Spiral is available on William Orbit's new album "Hello Waveforms", it's also available as a multitrack mixer so you can make your own remix via the "OrbitMixer" at williamorbit.com, there's also other mixes to appear on William's web site very soon.

William Orbit will be doing all the promotion for that track, which is why, aparently Mutya agreed to do it....

[edit] Keisha in an interview

Keisha mentionned in an interview this weekend that the baby/busy schedule reasons for Mutya's departure were only rumors, and that she actually left because she wasn't enjoying being in the band anymore and wanted a solo career. Should the article be changed to include that fact?

[edit] Rerelease question

This is more of a question than concern. Are the album sales for Taller In More Ways counting the re-release sales? Thx in advance.

shakilover 00:52, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Overloaded (Section)

Whomever is continuing to change the Overloaded: The Singles Collection section, please leave it as is. We as fans should keep the page looking neat and in order just as it looks from the beginning. The article that is currently up for the section is an example of how it should be and should not be changed. So please do not change it once again. Thank you for your consideration.


response: The changes you talk about are not mine but i disagree. As "fans" you should not be doing anything with the page. Wikipedia articles are not meant to be biased. Information which is agreeable or not should be published free of bias. "Fans" have no place in wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.13.92 (talk) 16:00, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Perverts

To the pervert who rearranged the Overloaded tracklistings in an inappropriate matter. I have reported you.

[edit] Guiness World Records

I deleted the award "add" of Guiness World Records, stating that the Sugababes won Best Female Act of the Century. "Best" is an opinion, so I don't think the Sugababes have received such an award by Guiness. --Soetermans 21:39, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

They HAVE received an award for it.

Check the official site, bud they have infact recieve such an award including the word "best" in it. DarkCastle 00:02, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

In that case, my apologies. Surely you agree that such an award seems a little strange, coming from Guiness World Records. --Soetermans 22:14, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
DarkCastle, can you provide a specific citation? I can't find a reference to this. --Yamla 22:25, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
I just checked on the Guiness site and can find no mention. --Yamla 22:29, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
When i said official site, i meant the Sugababes official site, theres also a citation from a website(s). DarkCastle 23:35, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Can you please provide a URL? Their official website doesn't work for me (falsely claims I don't have flash 7 installed, though really we shouldn't link to their site if it requires proprietary browser plugins) and I can't find a reliable source elsewhere. A few google hits, some of which, like answer.com, really refer to the Wikipedia article, and some unreliable hits. --Yamla 23:43, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Here's one (the first links the citation on the sugababes page), [1],[2], [3] and several forums commenting on the fact that they recieved the award. DarkCastle 01:07, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
These are not really reliable sources. We need a link directly to Guiness rather than to chat forums or unreliable reviews. Guiness does not give out awards like this. They aren't in the business of judging the best female act of the century. That said, they may well call the award this but justify it based on ticket sales or the like. Nevertheless, I am deeply unsatisfied with the citations given thus far, particularly as the Guiness Records site refuses to confirm this. As such, I have removed the award from the article itself. --Yamla 15:52, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA on hold

  • Most noticeable error, references go right after a full-stop or comma, no spacing
  • Years with dates example, 13 November 2006 should be wikilinked to November 13, 2006
  • Buena gave birth to a daughter, sounds really cheesy, try reword it
  • External link to a fansite, which is a no-no, also the IMDB link is pointless
  • "Easy" was released on CD the week prior to the hits compilation album, and peaked at number eight in the UK Single Charts. released as a single you mean?
  • Since they were 8, eight and fourteen as these numbers are low
  • The Sugababes are a girl band that formed in London, England in 1998., remove 'that' also what style of music do they play?
  • They have released seventeen singles, how many albums?
  • The lead needs serious work, its basically , they were the first, they also.. they were

References and images are fine, goodluck M3tal H3ad 03:49, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Cheers for that review. Thought it would take 1+ weeks to get one. Have done changes where noted. DarkCastle 11:10, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Issues addressed, i will promote this to GA. My advice is try incorporate the album sales into each album section and don't reference it in the lead. Also expand the lead and go for a peer review if you want to bring it up to FA quality. M3tal H3ad 01:00, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks and will take it into consideration for FA DarkCastle 02:28, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Just noticed reference 18 is in the middle of a sentence, move it to the end or add a comma and it will be fine :) M3tal H3ad 05:50, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Done! DarkCastle 07:18, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good To Be Gone

If it is at all possible, please leave each letter starting with a word in capital letters for "Good To Be Gone." I noticed a pattern in changes for the song being typed as "Good to be Gone" or such other similar typing. The title typed as "Good To Be Gone," is the correct punctuation for the title. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Misteeqfan3 (talkcontribs) 13:51, 22 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Group Photo

Can anyone fix it? It would actually be nice to have Amelle in the group photo than always an old photo including Mutya who had officially left a year ago. Thank You

Hi I have replaced the old image with the new fair use image i took of them backstage at Glasgow concert. it is a rectified faiur use image for free use and own photo, it is not very clear because the camera was shaking a little when snapping a photo, but i hope it is the clearest pic so far, cos i had other fans and reporters pushing and shoving together with me so it was not easy at all. Done.

[edit] Good To Be Gone release date

In the Overloaded section it says GTBG was expected to be released on 29th January 2006 - shouldn't that be 2007? --CC 91 15:47, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Walk This Way

Can somebody please make an article on the new Comic Relief single? Im hoping to have it said Walk This Way (Girls Aloud Song) (Sugababes song), so both Wikipedias of Sugababes and Girls Aloud could share the same information since its more of a group singing rather than just one artist being portrayed as the lead singer and the other is just a guest appearance. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Misteeqfan3 (talkcontribs) 13:34, 10 January 2007 (UTC).

LPMA 17:48, 11 January 2007 (UTC)Wikipedia protocole on covers of songs is to list them in the existing article. See other Girls Aloud singles for example. So we can't create a new page for this one.

Then how about we do it like Girls Aloud's covers? I tried doing it before but somebody deleted it, which pisses me off a bit.

[edit] UK or England?

There is a little bit of inconsistency in the main Sugababes article in that the background information table says London, England, while the main article says London, UK. I know you can put both down but I thought it would be better to stick either to England or UK. I would have prefer it to be the UK as England is part of the UK. Manm hk 20:36, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

England and U.K. are both the same thing, just a different use. Such as like America and United States are the same thing.
Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are in the UK and they're not England. CC 91 16:50, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Exactly! Some how i dont think they like being called "England" as England is only one country out of four.

Actually, American and the United States is different. When someone says to me: "I'm going to America?", I automically say: "Where abouts?" and normally it's the US. However, to me America could be from Canada to Panama. LemonZebras 08:40, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

England and UK are not the same thing, as England is part of the UK, so that's impossible. America and the USA are also different, USA is part of America. Saying someone is from England is fine, and saying that same person is from the UK is also fine. I feel the best option would be to put London, England because England is still a country, even though it's part of the UK. Articles such as The Beatles, Genesis (band) (featured article) and Pink Floyd (featured article) all put from England, so I will change it back to from England, keeping the same style for all bands. — jacĸrм (talk) 03:24, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Having lived in England my entire life leads me to ask a quick question, if the Sugarbabes are from London why do they all speak with scouse accents (Liverpool / Merseyside (which is 200 miles away))....or have I missed something obvious like they all speak scouse in London or maybe The Beatles are from London too? Steve —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.23.107.192 (talk) 23:26, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Replacement"

Wouldn't you prefer "substitute" too? Does not sound so "mechanical", as a replacement of parts inside a machine ;) -andy 80.129.114.20 02:03, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Fifth Album and "About You Now"

stop putting all these stupid song titles for the b-sides, none of this has been confirmed. the only sugababes songs to have been confirmed are "about you now" "denial" "change" and "keep sane" so stop posting all this bullshit, and also the name of their album is TBA, its not "Everything Changes" so stop messing it around and making up a tracklisting. your giving people the wrong information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.44.161.100 (talk) 02:43, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

Could someone please lock this page until there has been confirmation about the 5th album, instead of people just writing up stupid rumours, thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Loveem (talkcontribs) 07:28, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Certification

The Sugababes have three triple platinum albums.


Angels with Dirty Faces sold over 900,0000. Three shipped over 900,000 but sold over 847,000. Taller in More Ways shipped 900,000 but sold 877,000.


Each one mean its been certified Triple Platinum so stop bring Three and Taller down to Double Platinum when they are triple platinum and have the sources above them in the certificationn box. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jammy2 (talkcontribs) 18:58, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

I have e-mailed the BPI website for confirmation. Anyone care to contribute to solve this ongoing dispute? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Loveem (talkcontribs) 16:00, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Russian #1s

I'm not sure if the Russian chart positions are correct for some singles, but if they are they need to be added to the Number Ones table. Could someone please cite them or delete them so they can be added. Charmer 08:32, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

If noone cites them i will change the #1 singles chart to this:

[edit] Number-one singles

Year Title Album Chart positions [1]
UK IRE POL DEN AUT NZ TAN RUS CRO EU
2002 "Freak Like Me" Angels with Dirty Faces 1 2 15 14 22 25 18 5 9
"Round Round" 1 2 6 3 8 2 1 3 3
2003 "Shape"
with Sting
11 9 1 16 50 - 25 12 29
"Hole in the Head" Three 1 2 1 1 5 11 6 1 2 3
"Too Lost in You" 10 13 6 17 26 31 1 11
2004 "In the Middle" 8 13 3 - 27 8 1 29
"Caught in a Moment" 8 28 4 - - - 1 -
2005 "Push the Button" Taller in More Ways 1 1 1 3 1 1 1 1 1
2006 "Ugly" 3 7 2 4 14 5 1 15
2007 "Walk This Way"
with Girls Aloud
for Comic Relief 1 14 7 - - - - 10 15
"About You Now" Change 1 2 8 12 4 20 1 1 4
"Change" 26 47 1
Total Number-one hits 6 1 3 1 1 1 4 5 2 1

Charmer (talk) 07:12, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New photo

Any chance we can get a photo with the current members in it? 82.5.97.136 (talk) 16:54, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] British Tabloid

It's very, very late here and I need to go to bed, but that new paragraph at the end of the British Tabloid section is appalling. Can someone please go through it, punctuate anything worth saving and get rid of the rest? Thanks Faerie Queene (talk) 03:57, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] picture and articles

can someone get a really nice picture of the sugababes with amelle in mutya left ages ago and also can you also put in an article for sponsorship deals because they were sponsored by purple Sony Ericsson K770i Cyber-shotTM phone, can you put it in their Wilkipedia. can someone also put in an article about the sugababes deal with Deichanan Shoes in their Wilkipedia please. 18 April 2008 3.30pm --92.12.40.142 (talk) 14:34, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Brit Nomination

in 2004 the sugababes recevied a Brit nominated for the song in the middle can someone put it in the awards box please. 18 April 2008 3.35pm --92.12.40.142 (talk) 14:27, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sugababes

Girls !

Baby Girls !

Make It Three: Boutique:.....: do what you like: but do it right: reading in the sites of: Lisa Lavie: Free Your Mind: there are only onel life: there´s nothing to loose: I. Title Of The Single: Instrumental: Track: Mix: Remix: Video=Movie:CD EXTRA: Movie is: Movie=Video: of: Track: CD EXTRA: now you know: wishing you the best to the grammy awards: try to knock me out: take your chance: you got it take your chance now: take my mission: good luck ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.6.194.35 (talk) 09:56, 12 June 2008 (UTC)