Talk:Sufyan al-Thawri
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[edit] Copy paste issues
I noticed upon reading this article that a large portion on tasawwuf was copied and pasted from a book, claiming that Ibn Qayyim al-Jawzia and Ibn Jawzi both were reported to have quoted Sufyan ath-Thawri as praising the Sufis, in the books Madarij as-Salikeen and Sifat as-Safwa respecticely. Upon checking both books in their entirety - I have both transcribed word for word in the original Arabic in Word documents - I found that the quote was a fabrication and not in either book. For example, the quote of ath-Thawri from Ibn al-Jawzi in regard to Abu Hashim says:
قال أبو نعيم الحافظ أبو هاشم من قدماء زهاد بغداد ومن أقران أبي عبد الله البراثي وبلغني أن سفيان الثوري جلس إليه وقال ما زلت آرائي وأنا لا أشعر حتى جالست أبا هاشم فأخذت منه ترك الرثاء.
And we can see clearly that the word "Sufi" or "tasawwuf" doesn't even appear in their. The same goes for Ibn al-Qayyim's Madarij as-Salikeen...it seems that this is a complete fabrication, which does not surprise me considering that it was taken (with permission apparently) from a book of the known liar Hisham Kabbani. I've seen what appear to be intentional misquotes and mistranslations of scholars of the past by Kabbani all over the internet. This is quite shocking to me and it needs to be removed due to its factual inaccuracy. I'll see what I can do about beefing up this and other articles about the Eight Ascetics in the near future. MezzoMezzo 21:50, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
