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Contents 1 Confusion over the date of installation as army commander 1.1 Division Commander Meeting in Yogya 1.1.1 "11 Nov" 1.1.2 "12 Nov" 1.1.3 just "Nov" 1.2 Unspecified Meeting and Location 1.2.1 18 Dec

[edit] Confusion over the date of installation as army commander

I looked at different sources and they reported different date : Kompas:18 december 1945, tokohindonesia.com:2 nov 1945, gimonca.com:15 dec. Can anyone confirm which one is true?. My opinion 18 dec is true because 12-15 december sudirman led Banyumas-regiment in battle of ambarawa. Peace. --Nielswik_(talk) 10:35, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

11 Nov. I will post sources soon. Merbabu 11:11, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

And please also post why it is more reliable than three sources above, please. Peace. --Nielswik_(talk) 11:30, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Sources on Sudirman - most specify a Division Commanders meeting in Yogya in Nov, but one mentions a Dec 12 meeting - no locatio specified.

[edit] Division Commander Meeting in Yogya

[edit] "11 Nov"

• "Indonesian Destinies" - Theodore Friend p35

[edit] "12 Nov"

• "Indonesian National Revolution" - Anthony Reid. p78
• "Gangsters and Revolutionaries: The jakarta People's Militia and the Indoensian Revolution" - Robert Cribb.

[edit] just "Nov"

• "A History of Modern Indonesia" - Ricklefs, 'elected supreme commander ' p222

[edit] Unspecified Meeting and Location

[edit] 18 Dec

• "A History of Modern Indonesia" Adrain Vickers - p105 - elected "General"

Merbabu 11:46, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Does anybody have Salim Said, "Genesis of Power: General Sudirman and the Indonesian military in politics, 1945-49", ISBN 9813035897 ? I think it is a good source for his biography. — Indon (reply) — 12:58, 12 January 2007 (UTC)