Talk:Students in Harry Potter's year
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Should 'year' be capitalized? I don't think it should be, this article should be moved to 'Students in Harry Potter's year'. John Reaves 23:12, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] It this to be considered cannon?
If not then perhaps just keep an article about her background notes and not to include this information in character lists. It is open to interpretation which characters have change names partially or fully etc.--155.144.251.120 01:28, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
- It should not be cannon because its just notes written before the books. If we throw away characters we know were changed and include ones that were not changed (even though there is no other mention in cannon) we will be introducing systematic bias.--Dacium 02:55, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
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- That's your opinion, however. Generally, in regards to Rowling's pre-publication notes, there are 3 attitudes: ignore them as pre-canon, accept them as canon until told otherwise, or - the most prevalent attitude on wikipedia - tentatively accept the data but add disclaimers that it may be inaccurate. But, until Rowling confirms that the notes are no longer accurate, they are - with the exceptions of the details which have been changed. Michaelsanders 15:39, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The Last section is original research
Please note the last section on "approximately 25% of wizards are Purebloods, 25% Muggleborns, and 50% halfbloods" is original research. Firstly because she said approximatly, as a reference to the whole population. Not a specific total that matches perfectly to the number of students in 1 particular year. Second all the other work based on fitting to this total is original research. Please see rules at WP:OR on why this isn't acceptable in an encyclopieda, as it needs to be verifiable as per WP:V.--Dacium 02:49, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
- It isn't OR - she said that 25% of the population were pure, 25& mug-born, 50% halfblood. Until she says otherwise, that applies right across the board. Including at Hogwarts. Michaelsanders 15:40, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
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- That still does not mean that any particular year should have exactly that proportion. We're talking about people here; population growth is not linear but depends on outside circumstances. Kit 10:15, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
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- First of all, the article lacks a citation for that assertion. Secondly, while the entire population may fall into those percentages, a specific year of births in one specific region doesn't need to. What if there were no members of a specific group in a given region in that year? Could Britain not actually be making up the difference? The only way what she's reputed to have said could be contradictory would be if she said that one quarter of the students at Hogwart's in Harry's year were pure, etc. Saying that a quarter of the total population are pure has no contradictory effect on a small sampling. Anyway, the bit in the article appears to be speculation based on flawed logic, so I'm going to delete it. Le Scoopertemp [tk] 01:54, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] AfD decision
The AfD decision to merge and redirect this article back in December was never upheld, and the tag was removed in January. If there is no further input from others, I will perform the merge and redirect in the next few days. Leebo T/C 03:23, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
- I'm glad I saw this, since I was considering nominating for AfD myself. If you want help doing the merge, or really don't want to do it at all, I'd be more than happy to do my part to reduce Potter-cruft right now. Natalie 21:07, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
