Talk:Student financial aid

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[edit] Federal Work-Study Program

There's no page on it, and "work-study" redirects to the "Cooperative education" page. The FWSP needs its own page because it is an important program whose inclusion on this page or the "Cooperative education" page would make this page too big and broad, as other programs would also have to be included. Also, this page is about student financial aid in general, not about every single financial aid program. Wikipedia has a page entitled "History" but there are also pages on Caesar, Napoleon, and Teddy Roosevelt.SteveSims 20:50, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Statistic needs citation

I have removed the following sentence from the article:

"Approximately 55% of college students in the US receive some sort of financial aid."

It can be readded if an appropriate citation is given. —Lowellian (talk)[[]] 03:29, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)

Would anyone care to write about the history of Financial Aid? --164.107.254.24 20:44, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Q:Financial aid in other countries

I'm an American student, and I'm currently looking at graduate schools, some of which are in other countries. I've heard a lot of things about American students vs. foreign students in terms of American colleges. Is it more difficult to get financial aid for colleges in another country? Does this diffe between undergraduate and graduate schools? Thanks. -- Creidieki 19:12, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Financial aid affecting tuition

An article about Richard Vedder's findings, about how financial aid raises tuition, should be added.

Does financial aid increase tuition? I would certainly like to learn more about this. Go ahead, if you may. Enlighten us (the 'newbies').

(unsigned)

According to many sources[1][2], budget cuts at the state level are to blame for the rising cost of public universities in the United States. The rising tuition levels should be attributed to the most obvious culprit, not to the pet theory of some economist who obviously has an ulterior motive.
Richard Vedder has also been involved in "junk science" for the tobacco industry[3]. He's a fraud, and he knows it. Please tell him for me, next time you see him. If any mention of him is added to this or other financial-aid-related articles, it should be loaded down with qualifications, so that it is absolutely clear that his findings are opinions and not facts.
Next time, sign your message with four tildes (~), like this: 216.23.105.2 08:03, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] United States: "Need-based" aid overestimates the ability of working people to pay.

I have some direct experience, but only a few references regarding this subject. In abstract, the formula that the United States uses to determine financial need is set up so that working-class people are determined to "need" much less than they actually need for college. I found a teaser page for an article on a pricey subscription site, and a few passing comments on the issue.

Is there any better documentation than what I can find out there regarding this problem? I found this article, "Working-Class Students Feel the Pinch (Longstanding aid formula can make it seem that have-nots have more money for college than they really do)", which requires a $45 subscription to read, which makes it useless as a reference because nobody is going to be able to actually read it. An excerpt from that article is available for free here, but that site is a blog, so the excerpt will eventually be pushed off the page by newer content. The excerpt mentions the percentages of people coming from families of different income levels who receive bachelor's degrees.

There is also a passing reference to the problem here, but that source is obviously non-neutral (WSWS = World Socialist Web Site), and the main topic of the article is a minor change in the formula that lowered working-class financial aid eligibility by a hundred dollars or so a few years ago.

I found other articles that made passing comments about financial aid being insufficient or hard to come by for working people, but they did not seem to be worth referencing.

Perhaps somebody with access to a library can find better information on paper. I can do no better than this, but it would be worth adding a section on this to the article.

216.23.105.4 08:40, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

There is a lengthy government study regarding the "unmet need" of "low-income families" here ("unmet need" is defined in such a way that the paper does not address the EFC formula, but only the lack of grants) From the paper:

"...these levels of work and borrowing combine with high levels of unmet need, which translates into a total work load and loan burden of well over $8,000 a year, or nearly one-third of the family's income." (Page 9 on paper, Page 24 in the PDF file)

"A generation ago, many students were able to achieve access to higher education by working their way through college. Unfortunately, it is simply not possible today to work enough to cover college expenses without taking a heavy toll on student academic performance. In addition, excessive student work can actually reduce eligibility for grant aid and increase unmet need in subsequent years, forcing students to drop out before graduating from college." (Page 11 on paper, Page 26 in the PDF file)

216.23.105.1 09:14, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] References

  1. ^ Empty promises: The myth of college access in America, digital page 17
  2. ^ Costs soar at public universities
  3. ^ http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Richard_Vedder

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