Talk:Stillmatic

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Okay, the praise in this article is a tad too effusive for me. Could we stick to facts? --Neschek 15:47, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Yah, I really agree, this was probably written by NaS.-- Wikifiend 6:54, 30 Mar 2005 (EST)

Street's Disciple is definitely not Nas's highest selling album, I don't even think it went platinum yet. Stillmatic is Nas's best selling album. In addition, this article makes it seem as if Stillmatic is considered a lesser album than The Blueprint because it sold less. Most hip hop experts would agree that Stillmatic was a better album than The Blueprint; it's just that Nas has never matched Jay-Z in terms of record sales. --Mjp797 00:10, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

most hip-hop "experts," hah. always amusing how BP got near-universal critical acclaim, while Stillmatic got the thumbs down from plenty of critics. but Nas keeps it "realer" i guess.

anyway, because of their feud, the comparison is notable, and should be included. it doesn't necessarily imply a view on the album. 64.7.90.206 11:25, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

In response to Mjp797, Stillmatic is not Nas' best selling album; that would be 1996' It Was Written with sales of 3 million worldwide.

Quote: "At the time, the song's hard-hitting caliber was such that the song could have potentially ended Nas' career". I'm not going to bother asking for a reference for this, the claim that a 'diss' on a rap song could have ended Nas' career is absurd. Tripe like this needs to be removed to do justice to the great album. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.247.237.207 (talk) 21:49, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] producers and samples

this is the same post as the one i posted on the illmatic article, but it applies here more

i labeled each track with its corresponding producer because solo hip hop artists almost always use tracks from producers other than the one executive producing their album. Even an album produced by a famous producer will often feature tracks from others or the artists themselves (Eminem’s Slim Shady LP), unless the artist/producer collaboration states otherwise (Hi-Tek and Talib Kweli’s Reflection Eternal or Blueprint and RJD2 as Soul Position). The majority of hip hop artists, however, remain solo acts that strive to gather instrumentals from one side of the industry to the other. Because of this, I don’t think the standard album infobox template is inefficient at describing the details of a hip hop album. (Perhaps each integral genre of music should have a slightly different template.)

I suggest that only the executive producer be named under producer in the album template and each track be labeled with its producer, i.e. (prd. …) or (produced by …). (but i'll wait for feedback before i do more of this)

Production is important. It lets you see who did what, how their music evolves and relates to other things they produced. Kanye West is a perfect example, he did talib’s “get by” mobb deep’s “throw your hands up” and used excerpts from both those previous recording to make john legends “I used to love you” and talib’s “I try.” Knowing details like that (and I think most people did) almost bridge songs to each other, and it certainly paints a portrait of kanye’s style, for those interested in this kinda shit anyway.

from the begining nas has been good at choosing his beats this way, as he says, "to brigde the gap," and here it shows. Large Professor sampled a Lillian armstrong piece, and trackmasters a brit pop band.--Pointyfingers 19:52, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

Jay-Z's Reasonable Doubt was certified 4.5 mics upon release; it was changed to 5 later in his career. Both Illmatic and Stillmatic were certified 5 mic albums upon release. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.125.78.12 (talk) 03:21, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Would like to know if any avid Nas fan out there can verify if "What Goes Around" was produced from a sample? If so, what?

[edit] album cover

There should be soem information about the significance of the album art. especially about the flood and dove. and how it compares to noah's ark. (202.172.117.45 05:58, 21 February 2007 (UTC))

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