Talk:Stigand

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Article milestones Date Process Result November 10, 2007 Good article nominee Listed January 18, 2008 Peer review Reviewed February 18, 2008 WikiProject peer review Reviewed April 29, 2008 Peer review Reviewed Current Status: Good article

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[edit] GA Review

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Comments:

1. Other than the Pope image, the other three images require better captions so that they put the image itself into context. For example, with the scene from the book, what period is it from? What am I looking at? You might want to cut down a bit on the prose a bit and limit it to just describing the picture, rather than its direct relation to the article. For example, in the second picture, instead of "Stigand was chief adviser to Emma of Normandy, seated here with her royal sons Harthacanute and Edward the Confessor" it would be more helpful to have "Emma of Normandy, seated with sons Harthacanute and Edward the Confessor, in this X from year Y" or something along those lines. If you need me to clarify further, please ask.

Y Done Reworded captions. If they need further clarification, please let me know. Ealdgyth | Talk 22:14, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

1. "Stigand is first mentioned in 1020." (Early life) needs to be reworded to be more encyclopedic. For example, it might be better to say "The first reference of Stigand in "X type of literature" or in "X type of history" etc. etc. came in 1020.

Y Done Reworked. Let me know if it needs further tweaking. I assumed you just meant the first sentence needed more encyclopedic treatment, not the whole paragraph. Ealdgyth | Talk 22:38, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

1. "almost assuredly on Emma's advice." (Bishop of Elmham and Winchester). This needs a citation, although if I've missed it, please just point it out. It seems like a commonsense conjecture, but due to Wikipedia's policy against original research, it will require a citation.

Y Done The sentence has been re-united with it's source, that had gone wandering like a lost sheep and is now found. Ealdgyth | Talk 22:38, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

1. "In 1052 the archbishop of Canterbury, Robert of Jumieges, having been outlawed and driven from England, Stigand was appointed to the archbishopric." (Archbishop of Canterbury) is not a complete sentence.

Y Done Rewrote, and made into two sentences, I hope. If they aren't, I think I need to review sentence diagrams. Ealdgyth | Talk 22:38, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

1. "but it is now probable that this ceremony was performed by Aldred, Archbishop of York due to the controversy about Stigand's position." (Final years and legacy) I think you meant to say something along the lines of recent research or thought suggesting that it was more probable, but as it currently stands, this makes no sense, as there mere passing of time doesn't make a past event more or less probable of having happening.

Y Done You guessed right on the intent, and hopefully this rewrite addresses that point in a more clear manner now. Ealdgyth | Talk 22:38, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

"He had been an avaricious man and a great pluralist, holding the bishopric of Winchester after he became archbishop of Canterbury, in addition to several abbeys." (Final years and legacy) This is a very POV sentence and requires a citation to support it.

Y Done Cited. Ealdgyth | Talk 22:14, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

To allow for these changes to be made, I am putting the article on hold for a period of up to seven days, after which it may be failed without further notice. Thank you for your work thus far. Cheers, CP 21:43, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments, they shouldn't be difficult to work on. I'll have time later tonight to get to them. Thanks for the great suggestions! Also thanks for tweaking small things yourself, it's appreciated. Ealdgyth | Talk 21:45, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

That should be it. Anything else? Ealdgyth | Talk 22:38, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Nope, it looks good now! One suggestion I might have is that you should split the reference section into two columns, rather than one long list, but this is more stylistic than anything and certainly not a necessity for a GA pass, which I am going to do now. Congratulations and thank you for your hard work! Cheers, CP 17:33, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Well done, everybody! -- SECisek 19:39, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

Stigand is mentioned in the mouse's tale in "Alice in Wonderland"... AnonMoos (talk) 12:45, 18 February 2008 (UTC)