Talk:Steve Harris (musician)

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Article lacks references, persondata, infobox picture and proper structure (the intro seems to be the bulk of the article). It also has a trivia section, which should be merged into the rest of the article as prose. - Duribald 11:23, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Reverted to the previous version, as I don't consider Steve the one and only who holds Iron Maiden together; The reason Bruce left in the early 1990s was because of several arguments with Steve.

True, but doesn't that tend to support the point rather than disprove it? I have no axe to grind, I'm just passing through, but Bruce did leave in 1993 and Iron Maiden did stay together. IF Maiden had split up then, the point would have been made, but they didn't ... they were still there when Bruce got back in 1999 :-)

Not true. Bruce left because he wanted to go in a different direction musically. His musical ideas were being rejected by Maiden. The arguments are just a side note. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WayneS1324 (talk • contribs) 15:37, 22 March 2008 (UTC)


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[edit] "trademark gallops"

..won't mean much to a non-bass player - changing entry to reflect this

"which he plays with only two fingers." - I think that's the scaring part...

Use of colloquial expressions and non standard grammar in this page, could really do with being altered to standard English. 82.42.159.167 00:22, 27 October 2005 (UTC)UKPrawn

I can tell you absolutely positively that he does NOT "just use 2 fingers". He usually uses three and sometimes 4. This is a shocking lack of knowledge of the subject.

"Absolutely positively...uses three and sometimes 4"? Wrong, except for when he fans chords with the backs of his fingers, or when he uses his thumb for intricate acoustic parts. He picks with only two; his ring finger moves sympathetically, but he does not pick with it."...shocking lack of knowledge"?;-) Michaelkenney 01:51, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Date of birth

According to maidenfans.com he was born in 1956, and not in 1957
http://www.maidenfans.com/index.php?url=steve_harris.htm
But I'm not 100% when he was really born. 89.32.19.239 13:40, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

The Maiden biography I've got, and a few websites, say 1956. I wish people would stop changing it. --Mark (Talk | Contribs | Email) 17:03, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

If the official biog (?) says 1956, it's probably 1956, though the interview in Guitar and Bass in October 06 said he was 49, which would make it 57. But that could just be a repeat mistake. If he left school in 72 with some qualifications, he would typically be 16, which supports 1956. It was Dave's birthday when they played London on 23rd December, Bruce made everyone sing Happy Birthday but very gentlemanly he would not divulge Dave's age! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.159.59.41 (talk • contribs) 15:13, 11 January 2007 (UTC).

I was there, Steve let everyone know he was 50. But still, the biography I've got isn't official, but it is quite reputable. Also, the general consensus seems to lead to 1956. --Mark (Talk | Contribs | Email) 16:31, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

When was that, December 2006 or another gig? Do you mean, Steve let everyone know Dave was 50, or Steve let everyone know Steve was 50?

Further thought: if IM was founded Christmas Day 1975, when Steve was 19 (as he says) then he must be born in 1956.

Yes, he did form it when he was 19. But it was formed on that day in 1976, not 1975. Also, that link could have the false info. Nobody knows. You guys should actually ask somebody who knows about Steve Harris' DOB. --Willy, your mate 04:19, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Are you people that stupid? The man was born in 1956. I have met him and seen his passport at customs. It says 1956. Why do you idiots keep thinking it's 1957? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.79.170.66 (talk) 18:22, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

The man was born in 56, (WP:NPA - comment removed by Onorem♠Dil 19:51, 25 March 2008 (UTC)), but I know for a fact that he was born in 1956. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.79.170.66 (talk) 19:03, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey anonymous be calm! Wikipedia is based on references, where is the reference about his birth in 1956? The remastered albums of Iron Maiden report 1957. Your opinion and Fan-site like www.maidenfans.com are not reliable sources. --Born Again 83 (talk) 19:38, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey Born Again 83, are you a retard? Those 1998 remastered albums are full of mistakes. I have been working for a music promoter and have seen their passports since 1981(to get them visas to come to Japan) Steve and Dave 1956, Adrian 1957, Bruce 1958, Nicko 1952.
Quite being stupid and relying on messed up liner notes.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.79.170.66 (talk) 21:53, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Who are you to say the remastered albums are full of mistakes? Don't be offensive or I'll report you as a problematic user. Are you able to read or not? You must report concrete sources, not words! --Born Again 83 (talk) 22:54, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey born again 83, you are a trouble maker. I will report you to wikipedia for constantly changing the man's birth year to 1957. He is was born in 1956. Just look at all the correct sources. You are going by the mistake on the 1998 remasters that everyone knows are wrong. His birthday is in all the official biographies as well. Like I said, I have seen all the members passports because I had to get them visas to enter Japan, since 1981. So get your facts straight you stupid idiot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.79.170.66 (talk) 23:21, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Asshole, have you got a brain? read THIS if you are able to do that! I don't give a fuck if you have seen all the members passports, you must verify it! Do you understand, now? Read THIS! --Born Again 83 (talk) 02:35, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey moron who lives with his parents and stays at his computer all day, the man was born in 1956, read their official biographies. Call Rod Smallwood at his office and ask him. You are a complete idiot. Everyone knows that those 1998 cds are all wrong. Look at all the other countries entries for Steve Harris, they are all 1956. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.79.170.66 (talk) 21:15, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

It seems you've got serious memory problems, dude! YOU MUST VERIFY WITH CONCRETE SOURCES WHAT YOU SAY, do you know what is a CONCRETE SOURCE, ignorant?! I don't say it is wrong because I'm not Steve's brother, but if you are able to understand YOU MUST VERIFY WITH CONCRETE SOURCES WHAT YOU SAY. Wake up because I don't repeat anymore! --Born Again 83 (talk) 11:18, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Chill guys. The liner notes of the remasters are full of errors. Steve was born in '56. I don't know how to convice you, Born Again 83, but the liner notes can't be trusted. The official biography on the other hand... I even remember their website stated he was born in 1956, back in the day. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thucuth (talk • contribs) 13:19, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Two fingers or three fingers?

How many fingers does he use to play? The external link provided says only two but since some people have changed it to three fingers (which I change back to two). So, two fingers or three fingers? — Prodigenous Zee - 11:47, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Stephen Percy Harris was born in 12 - 03 - 1957 and he plays the bass with 2 fingers (gallops) and he uses the thumb for chords ;-). and one more thing, he didn't buy his first bass when he was 17, he bought his firts bass with 15 year old. Sorry for my english, i'm spanish —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.121.108.186 (talk • contribs) .
He uses his index for power chords, not his thumb. — Prodigenous Zee - 17:52, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

THUMB!!I'm sure

It's definately two fingers. And he puts his thumb and index finger together as thoguh he had a pick to play chords. MJPerry 12:25, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Bass Player magazine October 2006 issue. "I play with two fingers, except then I want to play a chord; then I splay out all of my right-hand fingers like a fan." ... "I keep the nails on my index and middle fingers just a bit longer."

its definitely 2, at live from abbey road which was on the tv, they performed halowed be thy name and hes said "alot of people think i play with three but its only 2" it looks like he uses three but as a bassist i can say that happpens automatically (ring finger moving with middle finger)

its three. im telling you its three. Even if the third is almost involuntary. if you dont believe it, try it.

[edit] Keyboards in maiden albums and fingers

Steve Harris has been Iron Maiden's principal keyboardist (other than at live shows and on a few songs where the work has been done by Michael Kenny) since keyboards were first used by the band on the album Seventh Son of a Seventh Son.

---This is not true. Somewhere in time was the first maiden album where they used Michael Kenny with keyboards and he uses three fingers as if he was using two, the index and the other two moving at the same time

Juan

Somewhere in Time had synths not keys (The Elfoid 11:51, 30 September 2006 (UTC))

Steve plays with three fingers. I had the pleasure of sitting back stage prior to a show and jammed around with him. He used the first three fingers plus his thumb. If anyone truely tryed to emulate his style, they'd find it nearly impossible to not use three fingers plus thumb.

Definitely 3 fingers. Just watch live after death. It's a travesty that you guys won't let this stand.Glorth2 19:21, 14 March 2007 (UTC)Glorth2Glorth2 19:21, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Bass Player magazine October 2006 issue. "I play with two fingers, except then I want to play a chord; then I splay out all of my right-hand fingers like a fan." ... "I keep the nails on my index and middle fingers just a bit longer." — Prodigenous Zee - 05:51, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

It's more a travesty that despite the fact Harris has said on multiple occassions that he uses two fingers that YOU won't let it stand. So that's also made it pretty obvious you lied about "jamming around" with him. 82.44.185.5 12:26, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Football

I have changed "exceptional" to "talented". 'Exceptional' in a pro football context would mean that he ought to be playing for England now ... (which would be bad for us Maiden followers!). Please refer the following interview:

Shockwaves: Weren't you actually going into professional soccer at one point, before forming Iron Maiden? Steve: Yeah, I had trials but I didn't quite make the grade.

http://www.hardradio.com/shockwaves/maiden1.html Second question.

212.159.59.41 16:54, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Equipment

This page could probably use some info about Steve's rig - E tac

[edit] POV

This article is POV, "talented football player" "Harris's songwriting has been noted for, a galloping bass pattern (see below)and long, epic songs that feature many tempo changes" "Steve Harris is often considered among the best and most influential heavy metal bassists. "While he has proven skill with keyboards and at producing a synthesised sound," blah blah - All these claims have no references, tag's staying on until this kind of crap is removed. M3tal H3ad 12:03, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I've done some re-wording, and tried to find some good references. If there are more specific parts of the article which you think need referencing (which I'm sure there are), just say. --DrBob 19:35, 26 March 2007 (UTC)