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Nightmares in the Sky

Would there be a way to add the book Nightmares in the Sky, a coffee table book that King wrote, to the King bibliography table?

Bachman photo

Does anyone know who the person on the Richard Bachman photo is? Entheta 18:50, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Swithen

The Swithen link links to this article, so there's no reason for it to be a link.

Family Jewels?

I've never done this before so am leaving it to someone who knows what they are doing but there's a section which I presume is supposed to be about Stephen Kings family which someone has messed up. 02/11/2006 (That's the English version of the date you lot!) 212.85.12.187 18:17, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

References

The references and citations in this article are screwed up. I cited a source for King throwing away the manuscript to Carrie, but the References section is not properly tagged. I don't have time to get to it right away, as I have to get to work, but I'll come back to this tonight or tomorrow if no one else fixes it by then. -- Kesh 19:04, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Using some idle time to fix the references. This whole page needs a lot more citation, though. That will have to wait until later. -- Kesh 22:21, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
I moved the references to the bottom and put them in one section, but they could still use some formatting, and it still needs a lot more citations. Additionally, I noticed that most of the first section is lifted right from the first reference, http://people.monstersandcritics.com/archive/peoplearchive.php/Stephen_King/biog. --Insane 20:29, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for cleaning that up! I'm still getting the hang of which cite/ref tags to use when. That looks a lot better. -- Kesh 20:41, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Actually, if you view the website in question, it states at the bottom that a portion (It doesn't state how much was used) of its information was taken from the Wikipedia article, just an interesting note. -- Anonymous

Well, we can't cite an article that cites us...where does the information actually come from? --Temporarily Insane (talk) 15:40, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Whoever removed my reference to his book "Lisey's Story" should be banned. It's VERY relevant, in context and in Page Numbering

Heinlein

I added the Heinlein bit to the Influences section. I was careful to include only that which was apparant from reading the novels rather than saying outright that he was homaging Heinlein because I didn't have a reference for that. The fact that he actually dropped Heinlein's name when he was doing it makes it bloody obvious as hell, but I figured someone might be nitpicky if I tried to give any indication of King's thoughts without a citation. :) AlexMc 09:50, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I also dunno if that bit is deserving of a spoiler tag. I don't think so, but someone might disagree. Also, the book The Number of the Beast has a Wikipedia entry, but it's a disambuguation and I dunno how to link to it. AlexMc 09:58, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Use pipe syntax. Edit this section to see how I did it: The Number of the Beast. --Insane 20:34, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't Heinlein thus be listed in the author info bar under its "Influences" section as well? I'll have to look at some of the intros King penned later, but I feel certain he explicitly mentions Heinlein as an influence several times. Exerda 19:31, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Picture/Image

Can we get a picture/image for this guy? That would really help out its rating a ton. -Kevin (TALK) 21:24, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Batman intro

Under "recent years", the article gives two incidents of King writing content specifically for comic books before october 2005. There is a third: he wrote a preface for Batman #400, anniversery issue. Not sure where to find a source for this information. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.177.38.246 (talk) 20:10, 9 January 2007 (UTC).

Nevermind, this information is currently under "trivia". Though it could stand to be moved.. 67.177.38.246 20:32, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Dark Tower comic

I didn't want to make such a big edit, not being very experienced on Wikipedia, but Stephen King isn't actually writing the Dark Tower comic. He was involved in the planning, and coming up with the storylines, though. This quote from an interview with Joe Quesada explains Stephen King's involvement with the project (but I can't find the original interview, I'm afraid):

"When Mr. King came to the offices – and yes, I totally fan-boyed out on him, we had a meeting to discuss story ideas, and during that, he started thinking about what kinds of Dark Tower stories he could tell, and where things were left untouched. There were a few of us from Marvel, Mr. King, his agent, and on the phone was Robin Furth. Robin is pretty much the keeper of the Grail when it comes to The Dark Tower – in comic terms, she’s the continuity cop for the series, and has written the official Concordances on the series, which track all the characters, the lands, the history – everything.

Mr. King just kind of looked up at the ceiling, and off the top of his head, started rattling off stories and stories and stories. He was telling about parts where Roland would go and do this and such, and then meet the villain here, and on and on. Literally, in ten minutes, he rattled off enough stories fill up roughly four or five trade paperbacks. He just did it offhand – the stories just poured out of him, and all of them middle, beginnings and ends. It was amazing to watch, and basically, hear Stephen King tell us original stories that no one, before then had ever heard before.

Of course, on the phone, you could hear Robin typing madly, trying to keep up.

NRAMA: So – mixing this with the creative process – how does the string of stories become what, I presume, will be several projects?

JQ: Right – there will be more than one. After he told the stories, Robin encapsulated them all and has done her best to break them down into issue-by-issue chunks. After she’s done that, I took a pass at it and broke things down into page-by-page structure to give to Jae – something written in the Marvel style. From there, Jae and Richard Isanove will be collaborating on it to produce the look that they’re famous for when they get together. And of course Mr. King was involved each step of the way."

Rolnikov 12:29, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Someone should add a section...

...listing and linking all the film adaptions of King's works, similar to the filmography section many actors have on here. Right now, the "films" section isn't much different then a trivia section. DocRocks1 21:02, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Since every one of them seem to have an article, there's a category that covers it: Category:Films based on Stephen King's works. Kuru talk 00:09, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Doc is right though about the 'triviality' of section. While the films section does not need to be a full fledged filmography, it does deserve a little sprucing up. Certainly some kind of list with links to each article, possibly in a nice table would be sufficient. Stick the related trivia in a column for the movie it applies to. It would look a whole lot better, and be much more user-friendly.–m.f (t • c) 10:26, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
I've added a table of the major movies and miniseries based on King's works, and not things he's written specifically for the screen, nor the Dollar Baby efforts. Feel free to edit it, but preferably don't add too much to it. The random trivia stuff that applies to those movies could go up into the list, but we'll still have the other trivia, which could be kept in its own little list (since it's about King himself). This is all I can do for now. --Temporarily Insane (talk) 02:05, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Dean Koontz Trivia

Just an interesting thought you might want to add on the Stephen King page:

In Dean Koontz's Velocity, a minor character in the book has the same name as a minor character in Stephen King's From a Buick 8 - Jackie O'Hara. The characters don't seem to have any similarities other than their names, and possibly what can be infered from the name; that they are both Irish. I'm not an expert on Irish names, so Jackie O'Hara could be a common name. It might even be an inside joke within a small group of authors. Whatever the cause, just thought I'd let you know.

68.43.129.184 23:25, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

P.S., I put the same note on the Dean Koontz discussion page.

I don't think it has any relevance to either author's page. The similarity exists, yes, but it's not notable unless they were actually the same character. --Temporarily Insane (talk) 01:20, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Lovecraft..Nyarlohotep

Er, I think it should be mentioned that Stephen King often in his narration draws parallels between Flagg and the Nyarlohotep, and I think somewhere in the stand Flagg is called Nyarlohotep... Elementalos 05:06, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

    • You mean "Nyarlathotep?" This particular reference is of no significance. However, King very frequently references Lovecraftian extra-dimensional beings in his work, seemingly as nods towards the man's work. One might argue that he often tries for Lovecraftian monsters: note Pennywise's true appearance in "It," which was summed up to be incomprehensible to the human mind, a thing approximated as a giant spider.

Who is "Weber"?

Maybe I missed something in this article... several times Stephen King is referred to as "Weber," which appears to be the name of one of his sons...

Is this an alias or a mistake on the part of whoever composed this article? Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Raemarie.stack (talk • contribs) 21:07, 1 May 2007 (UTC).

Nope. It was vandalism that has since been reverted. --Temporarily Insane (talk) 21:12, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Addiction

I removed information re: King's drug use, per no citations. Let's not list drugs used unless we can verify this, agreed?--'oac' (old american century) | Talk 21:17, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

I'll have to dig into On Writing later; there are definitely some possible cites there to his drug use. I do prefer online citations vs. print ones for reasons of hypertext, but certainly King's own description of his additiction from there would be a valid cite. Exerda 19:34, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
The only specific drug I can remember him stating he used was cocaine, he flat out states that when he wasn't drunk he was coked out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.198.241.67 (talk) 16:21, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
King was interviewed for Bravo's 100 Scariest Movie Moments, and he stated that he was excited to have Kubrick direct The Shining, because King had seen 2001: A Space Odyssey while on acid.Blackngold29 20:26, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

bibliography

why is there no bibliography of his works on the page? (or even linking from it. if there is, it isn't prominent enough, as I can't find it). Barbara Osgood 23:08, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Maybe because it would be too extensive. Right now you navigate around from the listings in Stephen King#The books to find that information. — Laura Scudder ☎ 23:46, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
There is a bibliography template at the very bottom of the page. Kuru talk 23:57, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Ah, the article's so long I didn't actually look all the way down there. — Laura Scudder ☎ 00:08, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Hmmm.. there should be a bibliography in the article, at least of the novels. It's not *that* extensive, and is common policy for author articles. Barbara Osgood 09:14, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

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religion

given that king often uses religious subtext or outright religious stories, anyone got any clue about his religion? and how it influence him—Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.26.98.232 (talk) 00:55, June 15, 2007

King has always been ambiguous about his faith. I don't believe he's ever directly stated what he follows. -- Kesh 01:33, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure he's Christian, cause I remember reading in the preface to one of his books something similar to the following. He was talking about The Green Mile, saying he picked John Coffey's initials based on "a famous JC." I'll try to remember to post it up here if I find it again. --Temporarily Insane (talk) 21:14, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
A lot of his stories do deal with the Christian faith but I think making assumptions on his religion because of that is original research, although I think he's probably Christian as well..--CyberGhostface 22:14, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
I think he said "I have no use for formal religion" in some preface or another. Or was that Dave Barry? Hmmm--Ellissound 03:13, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

The F.A.Q on his site about Religion 'Stephen was raised as a Methodist and attended church regularly in his youth. He no longer attends church, but he does believe in God and reads the Bible. Tabitha, his wife, was raised as a Catholic.' http://www.stephenking.com/pages/FAQ/Stephen_King/religion.php 86.42.200.50 21:27, 20 August 2007 (UTC)Tom

Influences

I remember reading an biography of Stephen that the "Twilight Zone" (original) and the "Outer Limits" were inspirations for some of his work. I remember this because these are my favourite shows also.

-G—Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.231.143.191 (talk) 04:07, June 22, 2007

Is This Really Stephen King??

My wife has a collection of short stories put out by Forest Hills publishing called Cries From The Gravediggers Well: 25 Tales Of Horror! One of the stories in it is called "The Foster Father's Ring" The author of this story is credited as S.S. King. It is written in the style of King's, and I was wondering if anyone knew if it was his, and if we should list it in his short stoires section.--Fernwood 00:54, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

There are a lot of people with the last name of King, and a lot of people who have similar styles. Since Stephen King's middle name does not start with an S, I wouldn't mention it unless you can find a good source. --Temporarily Insane (talk) 16:14, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Kingdom Hospital

This is stated as having been written by King, it is actually an adaptation of Riget written by Tómas Gislason, Lars von Trier and Niels Vørsel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.96.10.97 (talk)

What's your source? --Temporarily Insane (talk) 16:14, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Its actually common knowledge. Although, while Hospital is based on Riget, its still vastly different and a lot of it was invented by King. (For example, the anteater and the artist are both exclusive to King's)--CyberGhostface 18:30, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Problem

In the article it states that Roland Deschain saves King from being hit by the van, when in actuality, it was John "Jake" Chambers that saves him. Roland is too overcome by pain, and cannot reach him while Jake "never hesitated", and blocks him from the van, as they are both hit. Although in a general sense, Roland saved him, I beleive the article is misleading.

24.58.205.228 20:38, 21 July 2007 (UTC)NJ

Ethnicity

Im trying to research Kings ethnicity to see if he's Irish-American. Anyone know? Thanks


According to the bio at his website, King is of Scots-Irish ancestry.

I think he is part Jewish on his father's side. Anyone know this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.111.125.241 (talk) 09:02, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Seung-Hui Cho

The following sentence doesn't make sense - "On April 20, 2007, Entertainment Weekly asked King if he felt there was a correlation between Seung-Hui Cho's writing and the Virginia Tech massacre." Perhaps this is supposed to be 'King's writing and the Virginia Tech massacre'? It isn't cited, so I don't want to make the edit myself. Nosferatublue 19:03, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

No, it makes perfect sense and is correct. Cho Seung-Hui wrote a script for a play which was leaked through various media outlets. Steven King was asked if, as a writer, he thought that Cho's writings had any correlation with his violent actions. 58.165.243.211 04:24, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Possible Book Spoiler

Under the Biography->Car Accident section, there is a paragraph that seems to contain spoiler information. It's currently the last paragraph and reads:

King incorporated his accident into the final novel of his Dark Tower series, in which the character Jake Chambers prevents a fictionalized version of King from being fatally injured by the van.

Now, I write this largely because I'm about half way through book six, and this feels like a major spoiler. It may, however, be a minor plot point and no action to the article would be appropriate. If it is a major plot point, should there be some sort of spoiler disclaimer somewhere? The surprise may have been ruined for me, but I'd like to prevent that from happening to others, if possible. --Nospoil 14:10, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, it's actually quite a large plot point, and I can see where it could be a problem. I agree that there should be a spoiler warning.
Paulbkirk 15:11, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
There was a huge debate some time ago about whether spoiler tags were acceptable to use on Wikipedia. This article used to have spoiler tags around that small paragraph, but they were removed a while ago. But as to whether they should be readded, see: WP:SPOILER#Should this article contain spoilers? As for whether this particular example is a spoiler, I agree. It should at least mention Roland, and say only that they have to attempt to prevent King from dying. This much is not a surprise within the story, as I recall. --Temporarily Insane (talk) 21:49, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

New Article listing recurring characters and/or places?

Just a suggestion, since it seems the vast majority of King's books seem to contain one reference or another to his past works (Cujo; Salem's Lot in Pet Semetary, Salem's Lot; It in Dreamcatcher, Gerald's Game/Dolores Clairborn, etc etc). Any takers? Fullmetaljacuzzi 23:09, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

I guess if we did do it we'd have to make it completely cited and avoid original research like "In this book, so and so's security number adds up to 19" or "In this book, the guy's intials are the same as Roland Deschain's" and so forth.--CyberGhostface 23:56, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Well that's a little more detailed than what I originally envisioned, I was more thinking of a chronological listing of his work and what outside characters/events/places are mentioned in that book. Similar to the Connections in the Needful Things listing: Needful_Things#Connections Fullmetaljacuzzi 00:33, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Chronological list?

Is there a specific reason why there is not a chronological listing of his novels? Most, if not all writers have one. I came here looking for a fact (list of all novels written up to and including The Stand), but that information is unfortunately not available here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.16.155.170 (talk) 01:25, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Haruki Murakami

There is no empirical evidence stating Stephen King's penny-dreadful writing had any sort of influence over the writings of Haruki Murakami, an established and respected Japanese writer whose works have received numerous literary merits. The claim is not only risible and completely unfounded, but as well utterly absurd to entertain. I have removed the name from the list of people King has influenced, and unless anyone can prove me wrong and show me evidence that says the master of pastiche, Stephen King, influenced Murakami, the section ought not to be altered. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tenchi2 (talk • contribs) 04:32, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Protection

Why can I not edit this page as I am a registered user? The dates need to be formated to those who use the day before the month. Thanks ```` —Preceding unsigned comment added by Humain-comme (talk • contribs) 04:55, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Your account must be four days old before you can edit semi-protected articles. See WP:PROTECT. Kuru talk 12:02, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the explaination. I don't understand why Stephen King should be protected, but there must be a reason I do not understand yet. :-/ --Humain-comme 22:25, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
There was a fairly heavy run of some rather profane and libelous vandalism in June. Since that was quite some time ago, I've taken the protection off for now; we'll see how it goes. Kuru talk 23:45, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
When Humain-comme first posted, I looked for an explanation and could not find one. Shouldn't we have been able to read why here? (John User:Jwy talk) 00:45, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
You can go to the page history and select the view logs link to see a summary a 'non edit' actions for the article, such as protections and moves. There is also a line added to the edit history itself. Kuru talk 13:00, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Signature

Why do I care for Stephen King's signature? (except if I were involved in some sort of illegal activities with the man.) 68.183.29.224 23:00, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Dark Tower spoiler in car accident section

I know wikipedia contains spoilers, but there's a very good chance someone could look up Stephen King and see such a major plot point. There's no reason to expect in this article as its about King himself and not of any his specific works...--CyberGhostface (talk) 19:45, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Couldn't agree more... thanks a lot. I'm currently in the middle of "Wolves of the Calla" and I'm glad I checked out this page before I read the main page. Thanks for helping me avoid a spoiler!--Senna27 (talk) 01:58, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Glad to be of help, and hope you're enjoying the series. :) (Although I'd reccomend you stay off Wikipedia just to be safe)--CyberGhostface (talk) 02:02, 20 December 2007 (UTC)