Talk:Stephen Covey

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[edit] Omission

Unfortunately, the ideal in the "Purpose of the books" section has been ommitted from this article. --JFN 00:10, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Same-Sex Marriage

"Covey was also active in opposing same-sex marriage in Hawaii in the early 1990s citation needed." I removed the preceeding sentence from the "Criticism" section until a citation can be provided. It comes across as being potentially defamatory. --JFN 00:10, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I reinserted the remark, with a citation. I'm still a fan of his work, but am disappointed to see he holds this position.
Septegram 22:58, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
I have no problem with the remark and citation, but I modified it to say who was doing the criticizing. As it was, it was just a statement of fact, but by placing it in the Criticism section, it was implying a certain POV. It would be like saying "Covey opposes abortion" in the Criticism section -- some would see that as a criticism, while others would see it as praiseworthy, depending on POV.
West81 18:58, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

It's from your point of view. Like steven covey i'm lds and am against same sex marriage i believe it is a sin. but You're entitled to you POV as well as i am

And -MY- point of view is that you are ignorant. You ought not concern yourself with other people's sexual/marital/emotional affairs in the first place. It's silly to me why people throw themselves into the gay marriage debate for "religious" reasons, as if they are some kind of saint for doing so. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.218.85.126 (talk) 20:54, August 22, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tone

This article reads like an advertisement overall, or lifts significantly from Franklin Covey press releases. Frogan 05:21, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Not any more.

[edit] Mental Illness

I added a {{Fact}} tag to the end of the sentence

Covey is also sometimes criticized for subdividing people into neat "proactive"  
and "reactive" categories, sometimes to the point of equating appropriate 
reactive qualities in someone's personality with mental illness

The first part of the sentence is reasonable, but I think the second has got to have a citation if we want to protect Wikipedia from lawsuits, and to comply with WP:BLP. In fact, per WP:BLP, I'm probably going to yank that latter piece pretty quickly if it doesn't get a citation. Not only is it potentially defamatory, but it smacks of POV (re: "appropriate reactive qualities") and/or original research.
*Septegram*Talk*Contributions* 15:21, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] single-mother section

Could somebody please get rid of the refutation to the single-mother criticism? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.231.48.52 (talk) 01:23, 24 April 2007 (UTC).

SINGLE-MOTHER RANT

This needs to be removed. It screams of advertising and is very preachy. 198.49.126.74 02:47, 6 August 2007 (UTC)TranceNode

If you think it needs changing, please go right ahead and do so. That's how Wikipedia works. If you find the example offensive, please feel free to insert another.
I'm not sure what the criticism section might be advertising, or what it's preaching, but don't hesitate to improve the article.
*Septegram*Talk*Contributions* 13:52, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Aha. Later edit seems to have addressed these concerns.
*Septegram*Talk*Contributions* 13:57, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Awards

Could someone please supply the source of the awards listed? A claimed award like "Speaker of the Year in 1999" is useless if you don't know who awarded him that title. Or "The Sikh's 1998 International Man of Peace Award" - who awarded him that one; the entire Sikh religion? Or is there a magazine called "The Sikh"?Rosencomet 18:57, 4 December 2007 (UTC)