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[edit] Characteristics

I think some mention ought to be made of the fact that he steps out of character during his interviews. The quoted assertion that he improvises during the interviews may support this as well. While a fundamental aspect of the character is that of being an-idiot-who-doesn't-know-it, his ability to debate with a polemical command of ideas and philosophy creates an inherent contradiction which the guest cannot overcome without s/he, too, breaking out of character ie debating a character who exists beyond the bounds of the constructed comic persona. --P00r (talk) 13:29, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] homosexuality

I would edit this myself, but it might cause controversy.

Steven Colbert (character) claims to be straight on the show, but drops obvious hints about being a closeted homosexual. I specificly remember him mentioning his love of saunas and recurring dream of eating bananas.

Spambi75 (talk) 02:26, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

This, in my opinion, is not controversial as far as the character goes - his past (and current) homosexual experiences are a running theme on the show. Just off the top of my head:

• The Word "Superegomaniac" (Stephen: "I'm not against gay marriage because I'm secretly afraid I'm gay" Bullet: "Secretly Knows He's Gay")^[1]
• Deep-throating the banana on The Daily Show^[2]
• Recurring dreams of said banana, as you mention (don't recall the sauna thing)
• "Baby carrots are trying to turn me gay"^[3]
• Pizza + Colbert = gay porn. First on The Daily Show in "Popping a Big Tent"^[4] then on The Colbert Report in "Fresh Hot Slice"^[5], and also on the DVD extras for Indecision 2004 (shares a slice with Jon Stewart)
• His "hypothetical" gay porn work as Tyrone Hunnibi (to finance his "hypothetical" meth addiction) - and more pizza ^[6]
• Saying that he did not "blow [Bill O'Reilly] right away", but went for dinner first^[7]

There's plenty of material but I'm not much good at writing actual article content - anyone up to the task? Rissa (talk) 01:40, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Aagh, I fail at links. Rissa (talk) 01:45, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

1. ^ http://www.comedycentral.com/colbertreport/videos.jhtml?videoId=68867
2. ^ http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=108395&title=prince-charles-scandal
3. ^ http://www.comedycentral.com/colbertreport/videos.jhtml?videoId=80705
4. ^ http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=114019&title=popping-a-big-tent
5. ^ http://www.comedycentral.com/colbertreport/videos.jhtml?videoId=60692
6. ^ http://www.comedycentral.com/colbertreport/videos.jhtml?videoId=79560
7. ^ http://www.comedycentral.com/colbertreport/videos.jhtml?videoId=81291

I started writing this up myself, but it occurred to me that all of these references are directly from the show. While it's pretty obvious to all of us that character!Stephen is gay, shouldn't we have a secondary source stating as much before we put it in the article? Otherwise it's just WP:OR, isn't it? Shoemoney2night (talk) 09:23, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Hello! As of April 23, 2008, Colbert has asked Rain to a dance-off, a cuddle-off or a spoon-off. Pretty freakin' gay. No idea how to do those after-thingies right so, user: waladil, 9:55 PM 23 April 2008. Hope it's good enough. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.163.247.190 (talk) 03:55, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

To sign your username, just type four tildes (~) in a row. :) Shoemoney2night (talk) 08:06, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cannibalism

Seriously guys, don't delete this. He really said it on April 22, 2008. PLEASE STOP DELETING IT!!! Just watch the show that night. Thanks for NOT deleting it- it's a fact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.163.247.190 (talk) 04:01, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

It was a really funny bit and a great farewell to Eric Drysdale, but I don't think that it warrants a mention in the character's biography. I've said this before, but the problem with writing about the character "Stephen Colbert" is that the show's writers don't stick to a particularly rigid history. A lot of it's made up on the fly or inserted purely for a lead-in to discussion of current affairs or the sake of a great joke (as is the case with this one). The character has also implied that he robbed Abraham Lincoln's grave and I think murdered Gwyneth Paltrow at one point.

I'm hesitant about inserting references to one-off jokes like the cannibalism thing into the article, mainly because originally the article was at least 50% funny references from the show. Which is great for a chuckle, but not so much for an encyclopaedia article. I don't know how other people feel, but my position has always been that in order to warrant an inclusion in the bio, a joke has to be fairly significant and well-established canon (eg. Stephen's pre-TDS career, which is discussed in the book and supported by some segments on the show), or a very notable recurring joke (eg. His relationship with Jon, which is regularly joked about on the show and relates to his dynamic with Jon during the toss and other interactions). Shoemoney2night (talk) 05:12, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Non-notable, will never ever recur. Leave it out. -mattbuck (Talk) 09:13, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rain

Since Colbert's had this feud with Rain now for a year straight and considering it will probably continue into the next Time online poll... I think it's worth mentioning in the article. It's something he frequently mentions on the show these days.66.229.89.202 (talk) 22:03, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] surely the fact that...

his father was a turd miner and his grandfather was a goat-ball-licker should be mentioned in his biography? Serendi^podous 07:07, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

It was an hilarious segment, but it was also a one-off joke with little bearing on the character. I don't think it's relevant. Shoemoney2night (talk) 10:39, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Too many C's

Sorry guys, I had to take them back and give them to more needy wikipedia artcles. Hope this isn't a problem ;3 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.12.1.51 (talk) 14:40, 13 May 2008 (UTC)