Talk:Stepan Bandera

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He did everything he possibly could for Ukraine's freedom.

Stefan Bandera is responsible for the murders of many Jews in the territories occupied by the Germans in Ukraine. You can read about the acts of the brigades headed by Stefan Bandera in the following article written by an eye-witness, a survivor: http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/buchach/buc258.html#Page264

The relevant paragraph from this site is the following:

Stefan Bandera – Ukrainian general in the Soviet army who switched to the German side along with his entire army. His troops fought against the Russians on the front and were very active in the murder of Jews in the Ukraine and in Russia. Bandera and his men went underground prior to the German downfall. Well armed by the Germans, he continued his fight against the Russians and his killing of Jews and Poles for several years after the Allied victory. I could ascertain during my 1999 trip to the Ukraine that today Bandera is considered a national hero. All the towns have streets and squares named after him and there are many monuments dedicated to him. He is almost at the same level as two other Ukrainian heroes with Jewish blood on their hands: Bohdan Chmielnicki and Petlura.

Comment by Pan Gerwazy:

No, "Soviet general" cannot possibly be correct. This is probably caused by a confusion with someone else. Vlasov, perhaps?

Bandera was on the German side when they invaded, but was soon arrested for being too independent. He even opposed the formation of SS-Galizien.

But a lot of atrocities were committed by his supporters in his name and Bandera never recanted them or asked for forgiveness.

It is also true that someone in whose name so many innocent people (Jews, Poles and yes, relatives of communist partisans) were killed, should not be so popular in Ukraine.

Well, it is a difficult and controversial question and one has to be respectful of the thousands of innocent victims of the Ukrainian radical nationalism. But there is another problem to bear in mind. Bandera was one of several millions Ukrainian people who witnessed the turmoil of history with its violence and oppression. His fight for liberation of his people against the Polish, Soviet and - last but not least German side was perfectly justified. Remember that the Ukrainian guerrilla forces were desperately fighting the Soviet forces for many years following the end of the WW II., completely forgotten by the divided world (as was the case of the Baltic partisans among others). And the violent experiences which started as soon as during the WW1 and continued in the interwar era with Polish state's repressions and pacification campaigns contributed to mutual hatred which was manifested by the Polish side too. Next to some 50 000 - 90 000 murdered Poles and Jews by the Ukrainian partisans there are some 30 000 Ukrainian civilians killed by Polish forces exactly for the same reasons the UPA turned against the Polish settlers - revenge and a dream of ethnic purity of the disputed territories. It may not excuse the Ukrainian atrocities but it sets the whole case into a more complex contect. The UPA was not the first and far from the only instigator of the terror en masse. 194.108.138.54 11:33, 9 May 2005 (UTC) David Yes, precisely how many innoncent people were killed by UPA? It is known that NKVD agents dressed up as UPA members, murdered families, and villages. The only thing you could ever accuse UPA of doing, is fighting/killing those who they were fighting against- Soviet agents, Red partisan, Wermacht. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pazan.ua (talk • contribs) 01:16, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Imprisonment in Sachsenhausen concentration camp

I think that this part has to be clarified, since Bandera has been held at Zellenbau, special section of Sachsenhausen for important polical prisoners. The information is available at multiple sources, including Polish version of the article. At Google Books: Poland's Holocaust, by Tadeusz M. Piotrowski. http://books.google.com/books?id=AOBedgrM7BEC&pg=RA2-PA12&lpg=RA2-PA12&dq=sachsenhausen+bandera&source=web&ots=rLE87qDo2k&sig=1I6YZIwlB48vw__9MmeSAvUKdcs#PRA2-PA12,M1 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Finalyzer (talk • contribs) 21:02, 16 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] pic

I think we should find a picture of Stepan Bandera, and post it on this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mona23653 (talk • contribs) 01:02, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

• Why the picture which I took from Ukrainian version was removed? Someone who knows what's going on, please take portret picture from Ukrainian verison and make it available Stanislav (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 19:42, 23 November 2007 (UTC)