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I listed Steamboat, Steamship, and Paddle steamer, as well as the redirect Steamer on the Wikipedia:Duplicate articles page. I think that the first 2 terms are interchangeable based on the "What links here" lists, and although paddle steamer is ok as a separate article, there's some overlap with what's in the other 2 articles. I think there shd be only steamboat or steamship but not both. But I'm not a ship-boat expert, so I'm not going to decide or attempt to merge the text appropriately. Elf | Talk 05:25, 16 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I agree with you that Paddle steamer should definitely be retained as a separate article. -- Decumanus 05:29, 16 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I don't really like that "steamship" redirects here - a 15,000 ton vessel is just not ever a "boat", and the content is so entirely focussed on small vessels that it kind of looks like a mistaken link. However, there's no point in tinkering without some kind of shared understanding about the division. Alternatively, both could redir to "steam-powered vessel" or something similarly unlovely. Stan 06:54, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I was the one who did the steamship/steamboat merge. I kept the steamboat page and redirected steamship as steamboat was then the more complete page. There's a fair bit about the big boats in the lower half of the page. Perhaps some heading would help... Zeimusu 01:35, 2004 Jul 7 (UTC)

nowhere here for seagoing steamers.. edit ocean steamship title? Also, how about lake and loch steamers - SS Sir Walter Scott still going, PS Maid of the Loch under restoration. I changed the SS Explorer to trawler, as the last of the clyde sludge boats is now operating cruises (out of southhamption?), but can't remeber her name (Gardyloo?). Also note that nuke subs are steam turbine boats, albeit with nuke heating ystems - dave souza 10:10, 31 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Contents 1 Steamboat Austria disaster 2 Steamer classes 3 No Merge 4 What about steam launches? 5 Unpopular merge 6 Who's on first? 7 Delphine 8 Steamships/steamboats under sail?

[edit] Steamboat Austria disaster

I found this new article. I don't know if it should be merged with this one, or just linked. I don't really know, I'm new here. G Clark 01:14, 2005 August 14 (UTC)

[edit] Steamer classes

While I'm not uninterested in oceangoing types, shouldn't paddle steamer include river & lake types? For instance, Walk in the Water, on the Buffalo-Detroit route, first steamer on the Great Lakes. Trekphiler 12:10, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

As in Steamboat#River steamboats and Steamboat#Lake, loch, estuary and sea-going steamers ? ...dave souza 00:54, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No Merge

While it may initially seem like a good idea to merge the two topics together, I think that a person who has no knowledge of steamboats in the first place would probably want a general base of knowledge, which the "steamboat" article provides. The other one is a bit more specific, and I would only go there if I knew something about steamboats already. Besides, not all paddle steamers are steamboats. Instead, I would recommend a section on paddle steamers in this article, but then a link to the separate article for people seeking more details.

[edit] What about steam launches?

There are hundreds of small steam-powered boats, mostly built by their owners, used for pleasure boating.... The Steam Boat Association of Great Britain in the External Links section deals with these... should this page mention this activity?

- Bart (who owns such a small steamboat)...

great idea, please add such a section. ...dave souza 00:47, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unpopular merge

The proposed merger with paddle steamers looks pretty stale, with no consensus to merge, so I propose removing the tags.....dave souza 00:47, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

• I secound that. Also, a lot of images in this article features paddlers. Suggest some images is replaced by images of other types of steam boats. tsaetre

removed as discussed. ..dave souza, talk 00:38, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Who's on first?

While I don't want to reopen the Sirius/Savannah debate, I do question "Great Western was the first purpose-built steamship to initiate regularly scheduled trans-Atlantic crossings, starting in 1838." I've always heard Cunard's Britannia began this service 4 July 1840. Trekphiler 02:57 & 03:06, 18 December 2006 (UTC) (BTW, if anyone cares, Samson V was last sternwheeler built in Canada.)

[edit] Delphine

this diff seems a bit promotionaly to me. Greyrover (talk • contribs • count • logs • page moves • block log • email)'s only two contributions are to link to this ship here and at steam engine. I would not go so far as to say linkspam but it does seem off. I think I will revert it from steam engine. ++Lar: t/c 01:21, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Steamships/steamboats under sail?

The article never talks about steamships/steamboats under sail. So I'd like to start out with the question "What is the right term for them?" (partly because I'd like to introduce their own category on the Commons)... and then ask anyone who may have more knowledge to include them in the article. Thanks, Ibn Battuta (talk) 18:03, 20 March 2008 (UTC)