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[edit] Emphasis in MGS

Hideo Kojima has said many times, especially in the development of Metal Gear Solid, that the Metal Gear games rely more on stealth than on fighting. That's why there called Tactical Espionage Action games, with the emphasis on the Espionage. In fact, it's possible to get through both MGS games without fighting the enemy and just sneaking around and completing your objectives, with the exception of the staged fights between the bosses.


[edit] First stealth game?

I'm not sure, but would the original Castle Wolfenstein be considered the first Stealth-based game? I can't think of any others that pre-date it. --Paul Soth 04:03, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

This is true - the History text has been updated to reflect this fact... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.88.251.221 (talk) 16:36, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A list of games?

would it be a good idea to include a list of stealth based games, or should that be a completely new page? you could break them down into a chronological list or a list of different games with their sequels and such. Metal Gear Solid is just the first, and now there are many different stealth based games.

Examples:

  • Tom Clancey's Splinter Cell Series
    • Splinter cell
    • Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow
    • Splinter Cell Chaos Theory
    • Splinter Cell Double Agent
  • Metal Gear Series
    • Metal Gear Solid
    • Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
    • Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
  • Stolen

and so on...

--:Travlr23 22:40, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The best place for that would be List of computer and video games by genre. There's also a Category:Stealth computer games (though it should probably be named "Stealth-based games"). --Mrwojo 23:10, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

ISTR something like Escape from Colditz (?) on Amiga which sounds a lot like something fitting the description. Not a first person sneaker, but certainly a stealth game of a sort.

What is the oldest one? Pacman? :)

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It wouldn't hurt to add some major titles such as GTA:SA and Fahrenheit / Indigo Prophecy that have missions (or chapters) based solely on stealth elements. Fahrenheit actually borrows the concept directly from MGS.

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>>What is the oldest one? Pacman? :)

Ha ha, the legacy of Pacman still lives on - in MGS3 the player has the same view as in Pacman. The enemies however have the 1st person view.

At the risk of sounding like a fanboy; Thief has Splinter Cell well and truly beaten on using light to hide and a detailed environment. MuJoCh 06:39, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

And so I changed it. Also got rid of that bit about Splinter Cell coming up with 'double agent' play or whatever. From what little I can find there's nothing in the game along those lines that the Hitman series hasn't done already. MuJoCh 16:05, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Poop

Some random person has been going round adding "poop" to a number of articles.

Just removed the "pooping hippo" mention.

nOwl91 (Nick) 02:42, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Commandos?

No mention whatsoever of the Commandos series? They are definately stealth-based, and original because they use teamplay instead of a single first-perspective character.


[edit] BK ?

Hey, could the Burger King game " Sneak King" Be considered a stealth based game? It has nothing to do with killing people, rather it is a repetive series of delivering Burger King food to random people but it still requires an element of Stealth, as you must come from behind people to suprise them or hide in various objects like boxes and porta- potties.

-Steve

It wouldn't make any sense to include it as a major title or series, but it definitely deserves a place on the list of other stealth games, and it looks like somebody already added it anyway.

Ubersuntzu 21:51, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Splinter Cell / Thievery

I'm a Thievery developer but it should be noted that Thievery had a cooperative multiplayer mode as well, before Splinter Cell. I'll leave the article as-is, but I just thought I'd note it.

-oRGy

Sorry, I'm the guy that wrote most of the explanations on the major series list. I'm a bit embarrassed to say I'd completely forgotten about Thievery as I've never played the mod myself and have only seen a few references to it over the years. Anyway, I've already changed the "first stealth co-op" listing to Tenchu: WoH a while back since it came out before Chaos Theory, but I'll add that it's the first commercial game to include it.

Ubersuntzu 21:59, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Also, here's a link to the mod's page for anyone that's out of the loop.

Thievery UT

Ubersuntzu 22:10, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Drakan

I added the Drakan games to the list. There was quite a lot of stealth in this highly underrated gem. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 192.150.22.5 (talk) 23:28, 27 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] what a joke

there are tons of references and info on mgs but almost none on thief. a lot of it feels like fanboyism and what little info there is of thief proves what an essential game it truly was to the stealth genre —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.211.229 (talk) 10:05, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

I agree Thief should be in the list. It was one of the earliest stealth games. Endlessmug (talk) 19:29, 24 January 2008 (UTC)



[edit] What about Hitman

Everyone has been talking about Metal Gear Solid, Splinter Cell & Thief Series, but what about the Hitman Series? --The Dark Knight-- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.178.53.195 (talk) 09:33, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List removal

Why was this done? I thought it was a very useful list. Jmj713 (talk) 19:55, 22 May 2008 (UTC)