Talk:St. Helena Island Light

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[edit] Wobser article in the Bibliography

This would seem to be a really good source on the restoration efforts, which should probably be given more detail in the article. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 03:02, 8 April 2008 (UTC) STan

Added a little. Bigturtle (talk) 20:21, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] National Historic Place

The banner at the bottom of the article is for the wrong light. Needs to be corrected. 11:07, 9 April 2008 (UTC) Stan

[edit] Details of the building, equipment, etc.

I don't have time to do this right now, but a description of the tower, the lenses and order of Fresnel lens -- original and any replacement, and that kind of data (See Terry Pepper and the Inventory links) would be standard fare for this kind of article, and I think of interest to some of our esteemed readers. If anybody has the time and inclination, this article can be improved substantially. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 18:44, 9 April 2008 (UTC)Stan

[edit] Stub class (Not)

This article is fairly long, comprehensive and documented. I think we deserve START at least. Please have somebody take a look. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 22:28, 6 May 2008 (UTC)Stan

[edit] Conflict on current lens

Terry Pepper implies that the light has a 300 mm acrylic lens. Other sources (the National Park Service Inventory and the Michigan Lighthouse Conservancy) say 250 mm. Maybe not critical, but it would be nice to get this right. Volume 7 of the Coast Guard List of lights doesn't list St. Helena Island at all. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 21:28, 29 May 2008 (UTC) Stan

Traditionally in cases of data conflict like this, the owner's inventory trumps; if there is no public owner's inventory (as may be the case here with the USCG) then the inventory provided by the institution closest to the owner is the trump. In this case that would appear to be the USNPS inventory. Bigturtle (talk) 21:49, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
BT:
Thanks for your thoughtful response. I agree.
I personally wrote to Terry Pepper, as he is one of the foremost authorities (Terry Pepper, Seeing the Light), and is also the Executive Director of the Great Lakes Light Keepers Association. As you know, the Wobser's article in Boatnerd.com extensively documents the activities of the GLLKA in the St. Helen Island Light project.
Terry Pepper's response follows:

Not only are we at GLLKA involved at St. Helena - we have OWNED the station since 1996 (As it states on my website - "when in 1996, Representative Bart Stupak stepped in and sponsored a Bill through which the station buildings and reservation were transferred to the GLLKA as part of the Coast Guard Authorization Bill." As far as the currently installed optic, I can confirm that it is a 300mm Tidelands Signal optic. I have had my nose inches from the manufacturer's plate on numerous occasions when working in the lantern.

Kind regards, Terry

So I am going to change the listing to the Tidelands 300 mm signal optic.

Best to you. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 01:06, 30 May 2008 (UTC) Stan

300 mm it is, then. Thanks for tracking this down. Bigturtle (talk) 15:23, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Your welcome. I just want these articles to be accurate. If we can't say it for sure, we shouldn't say it.7&6=thirteen (talk) 19:54, 30 May 2008 (UTC) Stan