Talk:SS Ohio

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SS Ohio was a good article nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Reviewed version: May 27, 2007

The original article was taken from here. I have removed most of the content to prevent copyright issues, and changed the rest. JoaoRicardo 14:15, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] At All Costs

The book At All Costs link is the wrong book, there was no page for the right book. The right book was written by Sam Moses. Noha307 20:50, 9 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Major rebuild

I found that the previous versions did not emphasize the importance of this ship for the Maltese nation...i figured more ought to be said on this ship and the role it played in the war. Reuv 20:45, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] good article

This is not ready. It lacks a good description of the career of the ship prior to its final journey. Other material is not in date order and is thereby confusing. There is a also a touch of sentimentality in some of the text which is, after all, just about a ship. Hmains 00:51, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

It appears the previous nominator didn't remove this from the GA page, so I inadvertantly did a second review. My impressions are different in tone (and more detailed than above), but I too would not have passed it immediately (I might have put it on hold, but its too late now). My notes on improving the piece are below.

  • The article needs a references section and the current references section should be renamed notes, as laid out here.
  • As mentioned above, the text is too sentimental. The lead is especially bad for this, and other examples abound, like Few would consider at this moment that the Ohio would be the ship that staved off surrender of an obscure island in the Mediterranean or A series of events were to change the euphoria into resentment and anger. These are supposition and dramatisation and should be removed, or at the very least sourced.
  • Your sourcing whilst good, is not comprehensive, especially when it comes to less tanigible facts as mentioned above. For example, the description of the strategic situation in the Mediterranean at the start of the second section is unsourced, and there are several other places too.
  • The lead should be at least two paragraphs long and give a brief history of the ship's life and what makes it notable (which you have done, but too briefly). It requires a reduction in the dramatic language too.
  • The licensing information on many of the pictures is highly suspect. One has nothing beyond a statement that it is public domain in the United States (its clearly not a pre 1923 photograph) whilst others state simply that they are public domain in Malta without any kind of proof. This is the biggest problem. A GA must have detailed fair-use rationales for non-free images and good explanations of why images are free if they were created after 1923.
  • Finally there are a few typos and syntax problems, although they are rather minor and if you get all the above done, contact me and I'll be happy to do a copy-edit before it goes back to GA.

Best of luck, and a very good job so far, --Jackyd101 00:07, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

You guys have done a great job improving this aritcle, congrats to all. Noha307 18:52, 16 August 2007 (UTC)