Talk:Square knot

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Since the ends of the knot aren't shown, people could tie a reef knot, or a thief knot. The drawing needs to be more clear. --Anon

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Some ideas:

How about "The square knot has been taken up as a symbol by the Boy Scouts and is the first knot most Scouts learn, but there are usually other knots that are better in most applications. For instance, either the sheet bend or two bowlines are better for tying two ropes together."

"The square knot is also called the reef knot, as its primary use on sailing ships was for reefing, or tying up, sails."

Shouldn't the granny knot be on this page too? I don't care for the granny knot article, implies that granny is a legitimate knot, and not just a mis-tied reef knot.

Also, shouldn't this article include the explanation that the thief knot looks just like the reef knot or square knot and was traditionally used to catch a thief (who would see it (ends hidden) and assume it was a square knot when re-tying it after going through your ditty-bag? (could be worded better!) Ortolan88