Talk:Spoken word

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the list of spoken word artists should probably be consolidated with list of performance poets.

Contents 1 External links to artists with no Wikipedia entries 2 Not quite what I expected! 3 Red wikilinks 4 Listcruft tag

[edit] External links to artists with no Wikipedia entries

This page is becoming less of a page that lists various performance poets, than an "advertising page" for them. I disagree with the idea of adding links adjacent to poets who have no Wikipedia entry for themselves -- it just strikes me as lazy.

I suggest that the page for a performance poet is created, and that a bio and link to their site be established there, otherwise this article will continue to be less and less encyclopedic in nature. Am open for debate, but my inclination is either to delete those links, or remove the poet references entirely for lack of notability. Captmondo 18:17, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm willing to go a step further and delete all redlinked poets, regardless of whether they once posted external links. That would help prune the list somewhat. If this is too strong a step, please say so.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 17:57, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

As they say around here, "be bold". Captmondo

[edit] Not quite what I expected!

Here in the UK, "spoken word" is generally used for audio books and the like, not performance poetry. Compare the Google.com and Google.co.uk results for the phrase and you'll see my point. Is there an article about this subject - in general, as opposed to about audio books in particular? Loganberry (Talk) 12:43, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

In the United States, "spoken word" is used to refer to either a.) an artistic performance in which speech is the primary medium, not limited to performance poetry, and does not neatly fit into a more comercial category like standup comedy or lecture; or b.) an audio recording of either such a performance or in which speech takes a central role, but not including the genres of audio books, or audio dramas, or instruction. More often than not, these are authors peforming their own work, so it is a particularly well-suited medium for poets and short story writers.IanThal 22:36, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Okay, but that doesn't really answer my question. "Spoken word" in the UK does include audiobooks, and as such there needs to be either a section in this article, or a link to another article, where this can be discussed. Does it exist, and if so where? I'll willingly write a section/article stub if necessary, but don't want to do so if I'm duplicating something already in existence elsewhere. Loganberry (Talk) 00:44, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

I think we should "de-list" (literally) the performance poetry section, and place a link to the Performance poetry article, which is clearly more suitable. In Canada too, Spoken word more generally refers to audio books and similar performances. I also think this is where the concentration for the article ought to be. Any objections? Captmondo 12:47, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I think the opposite. "Spoken Word" is the more common term for 'performance poetry' (never heard the latter before), at least in North America. A hatnote would be sufficient. Torc2 (talk) 21:49, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Red wikilinks

On most articles I follow, red wikilinks are usually only allowed if sourced or really notable. Otherwise, red wikilinks without a Wikipedian article are removed. Seek consensus on removing red wikilinks. Ronbo76 21:06, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Listcruft tag

A list of notable performers for the artform is NOT listcruft. Most articles about a specific genre or artistic style include a list of the representative composers, artists, or practitioners. I don't know why anybody would expect this article to be different. The tag is unnecessary and should be removed. Torc2 (talk) 23:41, 6 January 2008 (UTC)