Talk:Spoiler (media)

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Contents 1 Citizen Kane Spoiler 2 The Sixth Sense 3 FF7 Spoiler 4 Spoiler warnings 5 Tone of the article 6 Aerodynamics 7 Origin of word? 8 References

[edit] Citizen Kane Spoiler

Wasn't it Lucy who spoiled it for Linus?

[edit] The Sixth Sense

This should include how everyone spoiled that movie for me...I've never seen it but I know the ending...assholes... Subversive 06:07, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] FF7 Spoiler

A fairly recent issue of EGM mentioned Aeris's death and said that by now spoiler warnings are void. I guess because like whoever-wrote-this-article said, everyone knows by now. (And yet it still managed to surprise me. o.O)

[edit] Spoiler warnings

Do we really need a load of spoiler warnings all over this article? Honestly, spoilers are what this page is about. When we list spoilers for a collection of games and movies, these spoiler warnings feel pretty redundant, to say the least. It should be pretty d*mn obvious to each and everybody that a page that list spoilers will contain spoilers. /Magore 02:08, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

I say we remove them and place an "advanced" spoiler warning, like the one at The Crying Game's wiki article. Calicore 03:05, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tone of the article

Maybe it's just me, but it seems as if the language in this article could be brushed up a bit. For instance, in the introduction it takes as its example movies, which seems a bit limiting. I also agree with the poster below that all of the redundant spoiler warnings ought to be removed.

[edit] Aerodynamics

I have removed the line about there being different meanings of the word "spoiler" as this article is clearly about the word "spoiler" when used about the media and there is a completely different article for "spoilers" used on cars, found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoiler_%28automotive%29. --Stenun 07:59, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Origin of word?

When and where does this word come from? If anyone knows this should probably be included in this article. I was surprised to find that usage goes back to at least 1984. Check out this thread about the movie gremlins from 1984 [1] . Uselesswarrior 16:35, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

• I don't know about this specific usage, but it's an old term for any situation that ruins the fun or the good effect of something. To give away the ending of a book, play or film "spoils" the fun. Vaguely similar to what your Mom probably told you once: don't eat candy at 5:00 in the afternoon, you'll "spoil" your supper. Baseball Bugs 00:12, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

The [Etymological Dictionary] gives this:

c.1300, from O.Fr. espoillier "to strip, plunder," from L. spoliare "to strip of clothing, rob," from spolium "armor stripped from an enemy, booty;" originally "skin stripped from a killed animal," from PIE *spol-yo-, perhaps from base *spel- "to split, to break off" (cf. Gk. aspalon "skin, hide," spolas "flayed skin;" Lith. spaliai "shives of flax;" O.C.S. rasplatiti "to cleave, split;" M.L.G. spalden, O.H.G. spaltan "to split;" Skt. sphatayati "splits"). Sense of "to damage so as to render useless" is from 1563; that of "to over-indulge" (a child, etc.) is from 1648 (implied in spoiled). Intransitive sense of "to go bad" is from 1692. To be spoiling for (a fight, etc.) is from 1865, from notion that one will "spoil" if he doesn't get it. The noun meaning "goods captured in time of war" is from c.1300. Spoiler "one who ruins an opponent's chances" is from 1950. Spoil-sport attested from 1801.

Those could possibly be the origin, in that a spoiler strips the user of the enjoyment of the work. Any suggestions? - Redmess 17:57, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] References

I think this article needs more reliable references. I mean, this is Wikipedia, so we should not cite Wikipedia a source, as wouldn't this be circular reasoning? Though Wikipedia is a good place to start research, I have also heard many times that Wikipedia is not always reliable and should not be used as the only source. --AcademicBrain314159265 04:38, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is editable by the public, so it is not a reliable source. That fact is implied in the guidelines for wikipedia: It's OK to refer to other wikipedia articles for further reading, but not as a source. Wikipedia is primarily useful as a outline for anyone wanting a starting point on a subject. Baseball Bugs 15:38, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Especially not since anyone could freely and rightfully edit those articles, making them not so usefull as source. - Redmess 18:02, 13 August 2007 (UTC)