Talk:Spoetzl Brewery

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[edit] Shiner (beer) Merger

I think it's a great idea. I've never been a big fan of each beer from a company having its own page, other than massive beers like Miller Lite or Bud. I'd much rather see ONE good article on Spoetzl and its beers than several sub-par articles. So, I vote yes on the merger.--Brownings 12:12, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I say we merge them, since no one else has chimed in. We'll then set Shiner (beer) to redirect to the Spoetzl page. I'll give it a few more days, but if we don't hear anything by the weekend, I'll start the merger. --Brownings 16:50, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Merger now completed. --Brownings 17:05, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Photo request

I'm planning a trip to the brewery on the 23 of this month. I'll try to get a few photos and at least add some media to this bland article. Hopefully one day I'll get over here to actually add some content. --Brownings 16:59, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

I visited the brewery yesterday. I've got a good dozen images to upload to Wikipedia for Shiner. I've got pics of the building, plus 4 postcards with older brewery and Kosmos pics. I'll try to get started uploading a couple this morning, then add more this evening hopefully. --Brownings 13:59, 21 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Current Beers

Shouldn't '97' be included in the list of current beers(I suppose it would be 98 now that it's the new year)? On the same accord should a special section be made to discuss the yearly releases leading up to the 100th anniversary? --Robhakari 04:53, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Rob. Shiner 97 was on the list, but I took it off just last week or so. I scoured all of San Antonio looking for 3 or 4 cases of 97 for a holiday party. The thing is though, Shiner's anniversary brews have a very limited run. They start in late September and only run until mid-December. After finding no 97 at any store in SA, I contacted the only distributor for this area, GLI. Their records indicated they hadn't received any 97 since around the 13th of Dec, and every place they had distributed the beer to I had already called. So, in panic mode over the fear of being 97-less for the holidays I called the brewery. I can't remember the woman's name I spoke with, but she confirmed that the production of 97 had ended around the 15th. 97 won't become 98, it'll be a completely different beer, just like 97 was nothing like 96. 96 was a Märzen/Oktoberfest beer, and 97 was a Schwarzbier (black lager), so they were completely different beers. So far there has been no word on what 98 will be, but it won't be 96 or 97 just re-released. As for your suggestion on the section for the anniversary beers, yes, we do need one, but I've just been so busy working on the Pearl Brewing Company article, I just can't find the time to get over here. I've been hoping someone else would make the section, but it doesn't seem like that's going to happen. --Brownings 14:44, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bocktoberfest

Perhaps we could move the info from Bocktoberfest to this article? Guroadrunner 09:02, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Wow, I didn't even know we had an article for Bocktoberfest. A merge might be the right answer. Then just redirect Bocktoberfest to the Spoetzl article. I vote yes for the merge. --Brownings 10:41, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Move completed, though the section could use a good cleanup. --Brownings 17:44, 11 May 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Shiner 98

I've removed the claim that Shiner 98 will be produced as long as there is demand. I spoke with Marlene today who works at the brewery, customer service I beleive. She confirmed that 98 will be just like 96 and 97, it'll be sold for 3 or 4 months and then terminated. She wasn't sure as to why the normal Oct-Dec release which was used for 96 & 97 was changed to May-July(ish) for 98. Guess we'll never know on that one. --Brownings 17:52, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Plagiarized Content

Much of the history section appears to have been lifted directly and word-for-word from the footnoted page on the brewery's website. Is this acceptable, or should the content in question here be rewritten to some extent? Dunkelweizen 12:52, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Anything that you believe is a direct copy should either be rewritten, or deleted all together. I'd be nice to see the history section actually expanded. For a company that's been around since 1909, Wikipedia sure does have a small amount of material. --Brownings 15:44, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

I've checked again, and for the most part, the history section is an abridged and occasionally lightly paraphrased reproduction of this website, beginning with section 4, "The Little Brewery in Shiner, Texas":

http://www.shiner.com/about/history.html

The terrible thing is that the "original" looks plagiarized, too, as it is filled with little footnote numbers but contains no actual references. This is sort of a rough problem, and I sort of wish I didn't discover it. Is anyone up for a little archival research? -- Dunkelweizen 16:01, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

I hear ya Dunkelweizen. Sometimes I think to myself, crap, why did I find that, now I've gotta fix it. Honestly, fixing this article has been on my list of things to do forever. Unforuntatly, it can never seem to make it above #5 in priority of Wiki articles. I wouldn't mind helping on any effort to clean things up. --Brownings 16:45, 6 August 2007 (UTC)