Talk:Spiritual death

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In creating this page, I drew from my own religious teachings. I'm not sure exactly how representative of all Christianity those views are, so if you see something that doesn't seem like a universally accepted doctrine of Christianity, go ahead and fix it and discuss it. Hopefully this page will help foster discussion about this subject. biggins 08:07, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Looks generally OK, except that I don't think it's right to equate "spiritual death" with "the second death". Spiritual death is present BEFORE physical death, whereas the second death is what happens AFTER physical death to those who are spiritually dead. Does this make sense? What I mean is: We are all spiritually dead, because we all sin. HOWEVER, Jesus died for our sin, and if we accept this sacrifice, our sin is taken away - making us spiritually alive. So some physically alive people are spiritually dead; others are spiritually alive. After death we can't change from one to the other. When the final Judgement comes, those who are spiritually dead will suffer the second death, which is complete and permanent separation from God, while those who are spiritually alive will be alive with Jesus forever. OK, so alot of this is POV and can't go in the article! But I thought it made sense to explain it here. I've tried to separate the two in the article - and I've probably got it wrong too, if someone else wants to make it better! 81.129.151.206 14:17, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

are there any bible references to spiritual death as defined here? i know the second death is talked about in the new testament, but i think "Spiritual death" is a purely theological term (and opinion) unless anyone can find an actual Bible reference —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.243.242.58 (talk) 01:13, 1 June 2008 (UTC)