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I recentley just fixed the destinations list, I added Service Announcemnets, Syber Specials info and more. I will continue to add more to the page as time goes on.

David464

  • The Syber Specials section was written in a conversational style, I've rewritten it to be more neutral. I don't know much about the program, can someone clarify if there is a difference between Syber Specials and other fare sales? Hawaiian717 00:06, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

The fleet count is off they have 20 A319's and 6 A321's, soon to be joined by 6 new A319's in Oct, Nov and Dec of 2006

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[edit] FREE SPIRIT

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The "Free Spirit" section is clearly biased, and appears to have been posted by a publicist or an employee of the company--note the use of "our party" in the text. However, I don't know enough about the program to make the necessary changes myself.

I agree that the section, as originally written, is little more than an advertisement. I have attempted to make the entry more encyclopedic by reducing the section to objective statements about the launching of the program. I have removed the boasting about the program and replaced it with a statement about how Spirit claims that its benefits exceed those of other frequent flyer programs. --Jules7484 17:35, 1 October 2006 (UTC)


GatorFTL--April 5, 2007

  • What ever happened to Lima and Chiclayo, Peru and Port of Spain, Trinidad?? Did Spirit drop them as future destinations? There is no information about any of them on website.
Nothing for Spirit is concrete until they've gotten approval, you'll probably see it pop-up randomly. -- SmthManly / ManlyTalk / ManlyContribs 01:00, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ACY focus city

Is ACY really a focus city for Spirit? Spirit doesn't have a ton of flights from there. It does operate some non-hub services.

I was there (Atlantic City International) the other day & can say for a fact that it is a focus city for Spirit. Spirit operates the majority of that airport.--Hndsmepete 00:08, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

ACY is a relatively small airport; the only other airline is Delta. Operating most of the airport doesn't necessarily make it a focus city. -- 3 June, 2007 12:54 (UTC)

[edit] Spirit cuts back service from DTW-BOS to "seasonal"

My flight from Detroit (DTW) to Boston (BOS) scheduled for October 12, 2007 was cancelled today. I was advised of an "itinerary change" by e-mail and asked to review my reservation on the website. The website would not call up my reservation and told me to call the Cutomer Service phone number for assistance. When I called, the agent put me on hold to check the status. After several minutes, she came back to report that, according to her supervisor, Spirit will be cancelling daily service between DTW and BOS as of 9/7/2007, and the service will be considered "seasonal", resuming in May 2008. She offered to refund my fare and apologized.Thomprod 18:41, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I'd suggest updating Spirit Airlines destinations, but since Wikipedia is not a forum, I'm not sure what you're looking for on this talk page. --Matt 18:57, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I was just trying to document a change in routes and how Spirit handled notification of the change, in case this was a trend. I will delete it if it's not appropriate.Thomprod 15:26, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
Well, I'd suggest updating Logan International Airport and Detroit Metropolitan Wayne County Airport to reflect the seasonality of Spirit's BOS-DTW route. Unfortunately, Wikipedia can't accept original research, so unless there's a bunch of news articles about how Spirit treats passengers poorly upon route cancellations, this probably won't have a bearing upon the article. Cheers --Matt 15:50, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
Well, My personal thanks for the OR , and here is some more as this is the only place I could find out what happened with the "itinerary change", and the spirit airlines definition, as they don't answer their phone anymore and put nothing on the website (every flight is listed as SOLD OUT, not-we changed our minds and we aren't going to fly there now). Amazing stuff. We canceled your route but don't wanna tell24.11.53.10 18:45, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hubs

This link (from Spirit's own website) lists Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport and Detroit Metropolitan Wayne County Airport as hubs: http://www.spiritair.com/welcome.aspx?pg=aboutspirit&code=fact. I'm fine w/ not listing Atlantic City International Airport as a focus city pending no reference for it but how can we not list FLL and DTW as hubs when Spirit itself refers to them as hubs...and come on, 90+% of Spirit Airlines flights originate or are destined for Fort Lauderdale...can it be any more clear FLL is a hub? Sox23 22:49, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

I've dropped the protection to semi-, so you can edit it now. just make sure everything you add is sourced, eh? David Fuchs (talk) 23:15, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
I am adding FLL and DTW as hubs until Spirit's website itself says they don't have hubs. Sox23 23:25, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
Well, Wikipedia is more about truth than what companies say. If Fort Lauderdale does primarily connecting traffic, then it is a hub by Wikipedia's definition of hub, even if Spirit wants to call it a base, right? I mean, let's call a spade a spade here. Plus, on July 20, Spirit called Fort Lauderdale a hub [1]. They call it a hub in many other places too [2]. (Actually, just check out the entire list here). --Matt 04:56, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
And at the very least, if FLL and DTW aren't hubs, they are definitely focus cities or secondary hubs. (Looks like a July 30 press release calls FLL a base [3]) --Matt 04:59, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
The website above has also changed to: Bases at Fort Lauderdale and Detroit -- Russavia has brought up some good changes that are needed for the airline infoboxes at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airlines...Sox23 05:09, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
I still think that FLL and DTW are hubs though, even if Spirit doesn't think they are. I mean EVERYTHING CONNECTS THROUGH LAUDERDALE! But I'm not going to start another war-I'm still recovering from the last one! Sox23 05:09, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Let them say whatever they want to say, it is not really our duty to prove them wrong, we inform and that is it... if they wish to bill themselves as such then that is what they are and we really have to follow that, whether they are essentially wrong or not is based on opinion anyway and so we follow whatever the official sources say, so, let's get cracking. -- SmthManly / ManlyTalk / ManlyContribs 01:16, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
Just waiting for them to change the Airline Infobox template to include bases...Sox23 03:02, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
Okay, every other airline wiki page lists hubs or focus cities. Why deprive users of that info just because of some stupid terminology issues? I had to dig through the history to see what its biggest cities are. Please list them again. Aaporter 87 (talk) 07:53, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Comsumer Complaints

In case Spirit erases the external link I added, here it is for the record: "Do Not Fly Spirit Airlines" Webpage (found thru reddit.com Towsonu2003 03:50, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't think links to blog rants are appropriate for the article... rhetoric 00:09, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

While I agree that it is inappropriate to link to blog rants, the neutrality of this article is misleading to me and I find it biased towards Spirit Airlines. I have added a section labeled "Advisory". I have included the following in that section.

Spirit Airlines charges passengers $20 US fee per checked bag per flight. If you are traveling with more than two bags the fee per bag that fee will be higher. You can save 50% on these baggage charges by paying for them upfront, on their web site prior to your flight.

Spirit Airlines charges you for all on board beverages and snacks: coffee, soda, water and snacks as well as alcoholic drinks. Also, they only accept credit/debit cards on their flights.

Some Notes: I flew Spirit Airlines from Cancun to NYC via FLL on 3/14/2008. I was charged $40.00 US for two checked bags, that is $20.00 for one checked suitcase per passenger per flight. I could have paid $10 per bag if I "prepurchased" them when I booked my flight on their web site. However, it would never occur to me that an airline would charge you to check one piece of luggage per passenger on an international flight.

Finally, their Free Spirit frequent flyer program will cost you $29.95 when the free trial time period is over and will be automatically billed to your credit card.

JohnA (talk) 02:16, 16 March 2008 (UTC) appletj 02:00 3/16/08

I don't think that including complaints about the cost of checking bags is very neutral - we can state that Spirit charges for checked bags and drinks, but we shouldn't bias it by saying it's bad. --Matt (talk) 02:37, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] other advertising glitches

Besides the Hoffa campaign in 2006, this year Spirit is doing a "MILF" sale. Someone may want to write about that... rhetoric 00:10, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

This is very misleading to call these "advertising issues" or "glitches". It is no secret that Spirit is the king of "shock marketing" and they employ these tactics routinely to generate buzz. I would suggest not calling these "issues" and be more neutral and refer to these "issues" as "Shock Marketing Tactics 2006", "Shock Marketing Tactics 2008", etc. And by the way, it started with "Shock Marketing 2005" when the airline promoted their Spirit Plus business class by calling attention to the extra six inches of width and legroom.Texascaribbean (talk) 02:31, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mexico City

It says in the Mexico City Airport page that Spirit will be flying there??? Is this true??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mgs112 (talkcontribs) 20:49, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Until there is a source, I say no. I have removed it since on the MEX page. Sox23 23:10, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] spirit in the media

there is no mention of the e-mail that the CEO sent to a customer and was on the national media by the way it was really funny —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.170.205.101 (talk) 07:41, 31 May 2008 (UTC)