Talk:Special school

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[edit] camphill movement?

are they so related to the article they should be mentioned on it? maybe a list of special schools is needed.. 80.178.119.169 04:30, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] npov tag

I added the tag, this entire article is arguing against special schools. the article focusses on one point of view which it calls mainstreaming in education. This article requires a complete rewrite to make it at all worthwhile. --www.secularism.org.uk 20:56, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

There was a reasonably large section about UK SEN schools (which to me) reads more NPOV but was removed, presumably by a Yank, for no appreciably reason, I've re-added it for now, although I agree it could do with a merge into one section/rewrite.--ElvisThePrince 14:19, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] recent change..

Special schools are schools catered to students with special educational needs. They do not provide special education. There’s a reason why it’s not categorize in special education. Special schools and special education are separate. (69.117.20.128 – talk)

As discussed previously! (yawn) Special schools are ENTIRELY involved in the provision of Special Education. That is their job to provide education for children with "special needs". They do not provide an inclusive education, but they do provide special education, that is their sole function. --Brideshead 19:29, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

You don't have a source for your claim at all. Special schools do not have regular classrooms at all. Special education is the term to describe exceptional individuals in a school. Special schools only have one group of people. They aren't compared with anyone else. It is not part of special education......We already discussed this....in the special education article, you even agreed to delete the special schools. If you disagreed, you would have left the special schools under how special education is provided? So you agreed with me. (209.177.21.6 – talk)
            • I don't know WHERE you get the idea that "special schools don't have regular classrooms". In the UK at any rate, virtually ALL state provided special schools have standard classrooms, follow the (modified) National Curriculum, and resemble ordinary schools except in the range of pupils they cater for. As for the original article here's contention that special schools are not informed by research: all I can say is that all the special school staff I know have multiple degrees at Masters Level and are far more qualified than their mainstream counterparts! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.216.237.25 (talk) 11:04, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
  • education is the term to describe exceptional individuals in a school

Unreferenced, ill-informed nonsense. This is not the definition of special education.

i did not "agree" with you on special education, I worked with other users to reach a compromise; that's a word you should research. compromise. --Brideshead 21:13, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

So how come on the special education article you didn't put special schools back in under how special education is provided? Learning difficulties is the better term instead of learning disability. It's more neutral...physical disabilities.is more than one. You deleted learning difficulties and put it as learning disability. (209.177.21.6 – talk)

I don't know what you're arguing about now, special education, learning disabilities, changing comments, not changing htem, who can tell. Pick a topic and try to be clear. --Brideshead 21:33, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

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Can I add that link? Is that neutral to everyone? What is statement of SEN? That's what says on the link. Someone should read it...and then we can discuss it after. (69.117.20.128 - talk)

A special school is any private school catering to students who have special educational needs (SEN), for example, because of learning difficulties or physical disabilities.

Why can't I say this? Private schools are schools that are catered to one type of people. Not all private schools are run by private groups. Some can be run by the government. Public schools are run by the government but they are open to the public. (69.117.20.128 - talk)

The term private school has a very specific meaning. It refers to schools which charge parents at point of use. The term has no conotation of allowing or refusing access to the general public it simply means a fee paying school, which the vast amjority of special schools are not. Look at the article on Private School your edit will confuse readers. --Brideshead 22:40, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

So read this: Special assistance schools aim to improve the lives of their students by providing services tailored to very specific needs of individual students. Such schools include tutoring schools and schools to assist the learning of handicapped children.

So which proves that special schools are private schools. (69.117.20.128 - talk)

I#m trying my best to understand, where exactly in the statement above does it say that parents must pay for this service? --Brideshead 22:55, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] spelling mistakes

I'm only mentioning this as it the second time you've made a comment about poor spelling. The changes you made on both occasions changed British English spelling to American English spelling. Neither are correct or incorrect. Wikipedia suggest that it does not amtter which is used as long as only one is used throughout the article see WP:SPELLING and WP:ENGVAR. It is standard to continue using the format in which the article was begun. In this case that it British English, however I don't really care and will not be reverting the edits. --Brideshead 19:05, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Well great...thanks...and sorry for being mean to you...i really didn't mean it....

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[edit] Alternative School

Special Schools are not considered part of 'Alternative Schooling' I have flagged the edits and will remove the statemtents after one week if a reliable verified source for the label cannot be provided. --Brideshead 16:14, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

The reference is there in the opening paragraph. (Angelina - talk)

There are no references in the opening paragraph. You will need to provide a reliable source which describes special education as an alternative education. --Brideshead 19:30, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] flagrant bias

Removed unsourced extreme POV statement that the motivating factor for specialised settings is the "social comfort of other learners". This is a sick, false and unverifiable statement which, at best, is original research. --Brideshead (talk) 10:21, 11 May 2008 (UTC)