Talk:Speaker for the Dead

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[edit] Spoiler

IIRC, the only spoiler here is if you haven't read Ender's Game: the article tells about as much as the back of the paperback copy, so is it really a spoiler? Also, it might be nice to have the spoiler warning below a brief description of the book but before the actual spoiler. KQ

The spoilers include many things: The fact that Libo fathered Novinha's children, The rebirth of the Buggers, the death of Pipo and Libo, etc. -63.120.61.3 22:50, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Revised edition

The article mentions that the book was revised in 1991. It doesn't say why, though. Anyone know? I'm very curious -- was it editing the book to conform to some plot elements that only arose in later books in the series? Looking for help, to both improve the article and help my curiosity. :-) Jwrosenzweig 00:13, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

There was the Introduction, if that can count as a "revision" (I'm guessing not). Hbdragon88 07:21, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

I believe OSC discusses some of his changes in the introduction. If not, I can ask him. My guess is that the changes were very small. -63.120.61.3 22:50, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikify Template

This atricle needs to be updated to better reflect this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/ArticleTemplate -- I don't have the time to currently do it, so I added the template in hopes that someone else might. --SSTwinrova 22:31, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

This was my first attempt at answering the call to Wikify something. Better? Phauge 20:52, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Analysis

I would think that post all sorts of cool things about this book. They don’t have to be too deep, we should at least start with high-school book report deep. Here is the first thing that comes to my mind…

  1. Perceived justice of a cause changing through history. Originally Ender was worshiped, and then he was hated. The buggers were first hated, and then there was supposedly love. However, how deep was the love? It was shown that society was willing to re-perpetrate history’s mistakes. There are many parallels. For instance treatment of American Indians.

Conflicts:

  1. Ender vs. The Bishop. This is a power struggle between the Bishop, who at first sees a "Speaker for the Dead" as a threat to the balance in the community.
  2. Star Congress vs Listuania. Listuania's charter is revoked when it is discovered that rules have been broke with regard to conflict with the piggies. Star Congress sees the rules as ways to protect the piggies from "cultural contamination" however Ender convinces others that they are lying to themselves and they are really trying to protect their own interest.


[edit] children of the mind

why isnt there a article on the last book??

There is. Children of the Mind. QueenStupid 15:22, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hard Science Fiction

I was about to remove the reference to Ender's Game being hard science fiction, since I don't think that children's space fantasies qualify under any definition of hard sf, but I wanted to look for other opinions first.

I removed it. It's an absurd claim. If you just follow the link included in that section and read about what is considered "hard science fiction" it's clear that either the person who originally wrote that never read Ender's Game or they had never read the definition of hard science fiction. Ender's Game focuses MUCH more on psychology, ethics, and morality than it does on the specific and accurate representation of science that typifies "hard science fiction."