Talk:Space rock

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[edit] Defining the genre

is it just me or does Creedence's "Green River" really not belong as an example of this type of music.. Floorsheim 18:46, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC) Please, what is the difference between space rock and psychedelic rock? And waht makes a Bob Dylan folk-cover-band like The Byrds to a space rock band? Four songs?--212.80.224.243 20:28, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Can't help feeling that the problem with this article is that it confuses music with lyrics about space with space rock itself. Space rock is a definite musical genre - basically free jazz inflected rock played by hippies on acid. Hawkwind, Spacemen 3 etc count, but I'm not sure you can really squeeze the purple people eaters in. Also, how can you have an article on Space Rock that doesn't mention Sun Ra or the MC5 doing Starship? Hmmm? My suggestion is that this gets split into a musicological page called Space Rock which tries to link the common themes (long songs, drones, atonality, hair, acid) into a musical movement and another which is one of thos pointless (but amusing) Wikipedia list pages (suggest: songs about space travel)


I have to agree with that last comment by unsigned - this is mixing two different things rock/pop with a science fiction theme and the Hawkwind et al --- Beardo 09:28, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] is this really alternative?

i'm pretty sure that alternative rock is defined as basically the whole musical generation that followed punk, when space rock appeared far too early for that. 67.172.61.222 21:52, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pink Floyd

I'm not sure where to put this, and I don't want to muck up the article without proper forethought, but I ran across a quote the other day that probably belongs here to balance out the Pink Floyd references.

"All that stuff about Syd starting the space-rock thing is just so much fucking nonsense. He was completely into Hillaire Belloc, and all his stuff was kind of whimsical, all fairly heavy rooted in English literature. I think Syd had one song that had anything to do with space, 'Astronomy Domine', that's all. That's the sum total of all Syd's writing about space and yet there's this whole fucking mystique about how he was the father of it all. It's just a load of old bollocks, it all happened afterwards. There's an instrumental track which we came up with together on the first album, 'Interstellar Overdrive', that's just the title, you see, it's actually an abstract piece with an interstellar attachment in terms of its name." -R. Waters Caterpillar 36 23:56, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

The article says that "astronomy domine" and "Interstellar Overdrive" are examples of Pink Floyd's space rock.But,in fact,they are the ONLY space rock tracks of that band

How about "Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun"? Actually Pink Floyd's connection to Space Rock is more thematic than titular, Pink Floyd's use of extended Psychedelic ambient textures over standard song structure is what ties them to the genre more than song or album titles. Freddiefreelance 19:39, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Err...this page really could use a second look. Cave In? Mars Volta? These are not space rock, friends...

[edit] Removed something

I've removed the intro. It looked really amateuristic and I didn't know how to fix it, so I've just deleted it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Slowgaze (talkcontribs) 19:42, 11 May 2007 (UTC).

[edit] "Citation Needed"

For the two requested citations on Pink Floyd couldn't you point to the previously cited Richie Unterberger band bio on allmusic.com? Do they really need a separate citation? Freddiefreelance 19:39, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vs. Synth Rock

Is someone able to succinctly explain the difference between these two genres? If yes, please add that to the article. The definitions are somewhat similar, but there is a rather audible difference. --Tropylium 11:12, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] U2

U2 space rock? LMAO, could someone remove them? Slowgaze 18:21, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Space Daze

the whole thing on space daze is incredibly POV, i'm deleting it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.69.86.114 (talk) 17:07, 13 September 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Joe Meek

I think Joe Meek should be listed among the precursors - he used spacey sounds and produced records with space-related themes like "Telstar" back in the very early 60s. Rodparkes 12:22, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] defining bands

Can I suggest that only bands that have Space Rock as a genre on their entry page be included - as that is where those wikipedians that are best qualified to judge a bands genres are likely to be found and if it is accepted on the bands page then it means it has got some sort of backing--C Hawke (talk) 13:24, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I think this is a great idea, and furthermore it should be a requirement that bands on this list should have "space rock" as a genre in their article's info box (if it has one) as well as the introductory paragraphs. I'm putting a box at the top of this page to specify this. I have also checked the articles, and fixed them so they meet this requirement.
If I could not find anything in an article explicity identifying the band as space rock, I have removed them from the list. I only had to do this with one band: Circle. This is not to say I'm challenging their inclusion. If the editors of Circle's article want to change it to say they are a space rock band, then it can be added back to the list. If any band's article is edited to remove this genre, it will be taken that the label is disputed, in which case it should be removed from our article's list.
Recognizing that some editors may object to the modification of the opening paragraphs, I have used this edit summary: "adding genre as per space rock page's requirements for list of bands", and I recommend we use this wording if we edit any articles in future for this purpose. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 16:08, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Angels and Airwaves

Are they space rock? Madblast 27:39, 02 Feb 2007 (UTC)

I have no idea, why not ask it on their page's discussion page and see what others who know about the band say? --C Hawke (talk) 09:36, 2 February 2008 (UTC)