Talk:Southern Democrats

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This entire article is so rife with unsubstantiated opinion it would be a great community service for it to be deleted outright.

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IMO. 66.82.9.104 20:26, 31 May 2007 (UTC)gp

I added Robert Byrd from West Virginia to the page. I realize that West Virginia is really only a "quasi-Southern" state, but most people seem to refer to him as a "Southern Democrat," especially given the fact he grew up in North Carolina and seems to carry some southern cultural traits in his politics. Some these days are even referring to Byrd as the final "Southen Democrat" in the Senate (I wish I had the article to link to).

Feel free to remove his name if you don't think that he qualifies as "southern." (unknown user)

For the early part of current Senator Bryd's Senate carrer, I would consider him a Southern Democrat; but for the past two decades or so, I'd consider him a Mid Western Democrat. Basically during the mid 70s to early 80s, Byrd's voting record moved to the left, while WV itself moved more in line with the Midwest, (particularly Ohio and Western PA). Jon 17:52, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Maryland & Delaware

These two states are no longer southern; and haven't been so since at least 1950. They are much more in line with the Northeast, (particularly New York, New Jersey, and Eastern PA). Jon 17:52, 29 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Dumb

Only word I can think of for it.

"Most Southern Democrats defected to the Republican Party at that point and helped accelerate the latter's transformation into more progressive party Republican organization."

Right .... that is why Democrats have dominated state politics in the south up this very day. Only in the last few years have republicans actually started winning state elections with any consistency in the south. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.234.227.109 (talk) 14:16, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Al Gore, Jr

Not a Southern Senator dispite being a Senator from a Southern State; he was born in DC and attended Ivy League schools. When he was a Senator he represented Washington to Tennessee, particularly starting around 1986 when he first ran for President. Jon 17:56, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Second Paragraph - Needed?

I think the second paragraph, starting "Depending on whom is asked...", is really almost off topic. I know it's important to define "South" and "Southern", but I don't think this is the place to put the debate. Perhaps that can be confined to the article Southern United States. Actually, I think this paragraph can be removed. -RobbyPrather (talk) 05:13, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I removed the paragraph. Here it is:
Depending on whom is asked, the South starts at either the Mason-Dixon Line or the Potomac River. Starting at the Potomac would mean the South starts with the Commonwealth of Virginia or West Virginia. However, this would exclude Maryland and Delaware, two states that are still today very Democratic. So for this article's purpose, the border of the South will be the Mason-Dixon, the border between Pennsylvania and Maryland.
If someone thinks it should go back in the article, let's talk about it. -RobbyPrather (talk) 05:22, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] george allen?

Isn't he a republican? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.174.188.219 (talk) 03:49, 7 December 2006 (UTC).


[edit] Joe Manchin

I think governor Joe Manchin of West Virginia should be in this list, because he is the chairman of the Southern Governors' Association. The Punk 09:13, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of Southern Democrats

I think the list should be deleted altogether, since many of the more liberal democrats on the list would not call themselves "Southern Democrats" even if they are democrats from southern states, as that term carries with it many conservative connotations.

-User:Rupper (talk) 01:45, 11 December 2007 (UTC)