Talk:South Gloucestershire

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The heading is strange, what's a UAA? I live in South Gloucestershire but have never heard of UAA. It could be Administrative Unitary Authority or Unitary Authority Area or what? A quote from the www.southglos.gov.uk:
South Gloucestershire was created in 1996 as part of the government's plan for local government reorganisation. It was formed from the previous districts of Kingswood and Northavon, and part of the former County of Avon. South Gloucestershire is a unitary authority - that is, it provides all the services that in other places are operated by separate district and county councils.
Is UAA a mistake for UA?
Adrian Pingstone 12:00, 30 Nov 2003 (UTC)

It means 'unitary authority area' and is a term used by 80.255 to avoid calling it a 'county', which the legislation clearly defines it to be. Morwen 16:40, 30 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Is bexley a county? How about the "county" of wrexham? All UAAs lack the very levels of administrative government that gave administrative counties their title. Furthermore, South Gloucestershire is obviously named because it consists of part of the south of Gloucestershire - Traditional Gloucestershire, that is (it can't possibly refer to the administratve county of Gloucestershire, since SG is manifestly not part of it!). The fact hat it is a UAA means it cannot be said to be in any 'administrative county' - yet it's name leaves no room for doubt as whereabouts it is; and there is no solution to this contradiction until you default to the real definition of the County!

Please stop this nonsense. South Gloucestershire is defined to be a county by the law. Morwen 19:02, 1 Dec 2003 (UTC)

And to save you the trouble of doing the research - see [1].

New counties of North West Somerset, Bath and North East Somerset, South Gloucestershire and the City of Bristol shall be constituted and shall comprise the district areas of North West Somerset, Bath and North East Somerset, South Gloucestershire and the City of Bristol respectively.

Now, you can pointlessly continue your rhetoric about it not being a 'true' county but noone is listening, but you can no longer dispute that South Gloucestershire is an administrative county, at least. Morwen 19:16, 1 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Well we may have to return to this, since Kingboyk has been recategorising everything. The local authority is described as a district ( or was at the inaugural council meeting, which I attended). It is described IIRC as being placed in a 'shadow county'. It is not a unit for purposs of the EU, I recollect. It shares some key services wtih Glos county (like archivist) as well as the Lord Lieutenant. Of course it shares many things that really matter with the rest of Avon, but that's another story. Linuxlad 10:44, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

There is a consensus on Wikipedia that the unitary authorities created in the 1990s in England should not be called counties unless they have the additional status of a Ceremonial county. Therefore South Gloucestershire is not a county (though the council have county council rights and duties), though Bristol, Herefordshire and Rutland are counties, as they have Lord-Lieutenants. David 20:25, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

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Hi Morwen!
Any reason why you have removed “my” map showing the adjoining areas to South Gloucestershire? I thought it was useful so why remove it? (at least, it doesn't show up in my browser which is IE6)
Adrian Pingstone 12:41, 22 Jan 2004 (UTC)

I replaced it with my new standardised locator maps for counties. I just tried it in IE and that wasn't showing up, so I fixed that. If you think 3 maps isn't excessive, feel free to put it back. Morwen 13:08, Jan 22, 2004 (UTC)

I don't see how there could be too many maps of a geographical subject so I'll put it back. After all, even your most excellent location map does not give the precise location of South Glos in relation to the surrounding counties.

Adrian Pingstone 18:17, 22 Jan 2004 (UTC)

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Hi Morwen! Would it be possible to include the name of the Leader of the Council, Neil Halsall, and the political composition of the SG Council ?

Robin Rae, Chipping Sodbury 6 November 2004

[edit] Winterbourne

Winterbourne now appears both under "Major towns in South Gloucestershire" and "Other towns and villages". I wouldn't claim to know under which it should appear, but clearly not both. From my slight familiarity with the place I would tend to favour the latter. SMeeds 21:12, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

I believe technically Winterbourne is a large village and should be listed under "other towns and villages", although this entry has been removed and the one under "major towns" remains. Bizegar 23:28, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 08:14, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm interested to know the rationale of creating the new Unitary Authorities from the former Avon County. In paricular, why wasn't the predominantly rural northern part of South Gloucestershire (what was Northavon) not returned to Gloucestershire proper, and Kingswood etc. (areas like Patchway and Filton, which are effectively Bristolian suburbs) added to Bristol? Axelowtl (talk) 16:40, 20 February 2008 (UTC)