Talk:Somali Civil War

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Contents 1 Before informing islamic court union 2 Article split 3 The evil oil companies 4 Somaliland is northwest

[edit] Before informing islamic court union

Before they form ICU, became big union, they are different courts, under the major tribe live in Mogdishu. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hassuun (talk • contribs) 06:43, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Article split

I suggest making a split in different articles for every period- like in Afghan Civil War --TheFEARgod (Ч) 13:54, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

The current Rise of the Islamic Courts in Somalia should be the latest period in that. (Somali Civil War (2006-current)) --TheFEARgod (Ч) 13:54, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Support this 100%. —Nightstallion (?) 13:24, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The evil oil companies

Why is the fact that oil concessions were granted in 1991 relevant in this article? Were these concessions still valid with the new government? Furthermore, this does not make any impact on the assessment that millions of people were starving and needed food aid. It could be argued that these allegations may have made Somalia more interesting for GHWB (who did not make nation building a task, that was Clinton), but to call this an important criticism is just a disgusting attempt to blame the oil companies rather than the famine as the sole cause of US intervention. You have to a pretty die-hard critic to argue that the Somalis should have been left to die if the oil companies somehow benefited. 65.185.190.240 02:11, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

(1) The critics presumably think that the U.S. is responsible for the anarchy and war because the dictator who was overthrown (Siad Barre) was a friend of the U.S. and the large amount of land used by the U.S. oil companies may have been a factor in alienating the population leading to the revolt. (2) There was no "new government" to validate or invalidate the concessions. JRSpriggs 08:20, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

See the Conoco Somalia Declassification Project. Documents show high level contacts between Conoco and the GHWB administration from 1988 until Bush's commitment of troops. Our sources of information in country were Conoco, the security for the Kott delegation was Conoco. We evidently went in to pull Conoco out of the fireDavidstaniunas 19:59, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Somaliland is northwest

The actual furthest "north" you can get in Somalia (North of 12º Latitude) is on the spur of Puntland in Bari region. I am sure folks in Puntland would not want to be confused with being part of the territory of Somaliland. Therefore, it is appropriate to call Somaliland "northwest." --Petercorless 07:18, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for putting in "(between Djibouti and the northeastern area known as Puntland)". That is an improvement over "(north of the horn of Africa)". (After looking again at a map, it actually seems to be west of the horn.) However, it is NW or W of Puntland while also being NE from Mogadishu and the bulk of Somalia. It depends on your point of view. Hence the confusion. Similarly, Puntland is SE or E of Somaliland while being NE of the rest of Somalia. JRSpriggs 09:22, 11 January 2007 (UTC)